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Old 07-03-2011, 03:58 AM   #16
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Helenius moves aren't as fluid as wlad's and he doesn't have wlad's stinging jab either, his biggest weapon seems to be the short left hook, he needs to get close in order to unleash it., I don't see him getting close enough to Haye so he can rock him, thus I'd say Haye by UD.
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Old 07-03-2011, 10:44 AM   #17
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Helenius has a variety of punches. First every one said it`s the right hook to the body, then it was right cross, now it`s short left hook He also gave Brewster a good uppercut. Helenius is good at picking punches to his gloves. He doesn`t hold that left low like Wlad. He also punches amazingly well down! Unlike Haye he doesn`t need to swing wildly to punch hard. I see Helenius picking that hayemaker to his left glove and punching right cross straight away Haye to the button.
Helenius used short right cross to essentially end his fight against Attila Levin.
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Old 07-03-2011, 11:40 AM   #18
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after last night haye's chin dont seem to bad i take haye to win
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Old 07-03-2011, 01:37 PM   #19
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Helenius moves aren't as fluid as wlad's and he doesn't have wlad's stinging jab either, his biggest weapon seems to be the short left hook, he needs to get close in order to unleash it., I don't see him getting close enough to Haye so he can rock him, thus I'd say Haye by UD.
Actually he really just developed the hook. The rigth to the body has been his money punch.

You have to like two fisted power.
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Old 07-03-2011, 02:29 PM   #20
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Actually he really just developed the hook. The rigth to the body has been his money punch.

Have only seen the peter and the brewster fights of his.
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Old 07-03-2011, 03:00 PM   #21
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HereŽs Helenius vs Attila Levin
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdHf0t75eOk"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdHf0t75eOk[/ame]

Helenius has flaws, but heŽs still developing. One thing I like about him, is his attitude. In Levin fight Helenius took big body shots from Levin and he thought that he canŽt survive those bombs very long.
Helenius didnŽt try to avoid Levin and fight for the distance. He thought "IŽll have to knock this guy out" and did just that in the next round.

Against Haye Helenius canŽt win on points but he would have reasonable chance of KOŽing Haye. As much as root for Robbe, IŽd say that Haye would be a clear favorite.
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Old 07-03-2011, 05:39 PM   #22
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Thanks for the vid. Good win for Helenius but for my taste in that fight he stood about in front of the guy for too long, he doesnt get out of the line of fire and thus he's easy to catch. He'd be in trouble against Wlad and he'd have difficulties to nail Haye, all of this imo. But I like him, a genuine fighter and one who has a lot of firepower himself obviously.
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Old 07-06-2011, 03:03 PM   #23
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Haye too fast right now, Helenius can be hit and he is not as much as a defensive fighter as Vlad....Robert should build up elsewhere
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