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Old 11-22-2007, 06:07 PM   #16
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It wasn't a great performance by Ali. Chuvalo's pressure and Ali's inability to keep him off (due to Chuvalo's chin), made it difficult for Ali. Though, he never looked in any danger of losing the fight. He totally dominated. He just got hit more than usual.
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Old 11-23-2007, 02:54 PM   #17
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Chuvalo said he took that fight on 3 weeks notice,so he was'nt in the best of shape either.
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Old 11-24-2007, 09:40 AM   #18
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Ali last fight was against Patterson in Nov 65. Chuvalo fought Terrell that same month and then he fought twice more before facing Ali in Dec and Jan 66. That kept him in good fighting shape.
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Old 11-25-2007, 07:54 PM   #19
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after the first fight in 1966 in toronto,chuvalo went dancing with his wife while ali went to the hospital.ali passed blood for sometime after taking those body shots
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Old 01-04-2008, 01:00 PM   #20
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after the first fight in 1966 in toronto,chuvalo went dancing with his wife while ali went to the hospital.ali passed blood for sometime after taking those body shots
He must have scared the shit out of anyone else out dancing that night, because his face was all puffed up after that fight.

When Chuvalo compared the young Ali to the older one he said that Ali had been just a little faster with a little more endurance in the first fight. I've watched most of both fights and to me they look pretty similar. Ali probably does clinch more in the second fight and if Chuvalo said he was somewhat slower as well I believe him. Chuvalo took quite a lot of punishement in both fights, though, but landed some good punches himself.
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Old 01-04-2008, 03:03 PM   #21
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You believe everything he said/ say, right? "The Kurgan" is completely right here, some groupies who say that Ali would dance circles around most ATGīs probably didnīt see the 1st Chuvalo- fight...
It's on the film. You can ever read Ali's lips saying, "Harder, harder, harder!" when he's holding Chuvalo and Chuvalo's hitting him.
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Old 01-04-2008, 03:04 PM   #22
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Which fight Toronto (I) or Vancouver (II) was the better fight for George Chuvalo.
Better fight meaning a better performance for George Chuvalo.
Toronto was before Ali"s 3 yr. layoff, and Vancouver was after.
Can anyone comment on both fights.
Anyway, Chuvalo did better in the first fight. He connected more and made the rounds close even though IMO he didn't win more than two rounds.
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