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Old 07-22-2011, 09:25 AM   #16
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Maidana is a good finisher on paper, truth is if he was that good a finisher we'd be looking at Maidana-Judah now.
If Zab was such a good finisher perhaps he'd be right calling himself the P4P#1.
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Old 07-22-2011, 09:26 AM   #17
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If Zab was such a good finisher perhaps he'd be right calling himself the P4P#1.
I didn't say Zab was a good finisher.
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Old 07-22-2011, 09:27 AM   #18
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Really? Maidana has a excellent KO %, Judah puts barely anyone away at the top level, even if he hurts them.
Maidanaís power and capabilities are overrated. His stoppage of Ortiz was nothing to do with seriously hurting him, just that Ortiz didnít want anymore.

The fact he couldnít finish Khan pretty much shows him up for what he is: a strong crude banger with limited skills. He couldnít even put an old, small Erik Morales away, FFS.
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Old 07-22-2011, 09:28 AM   #19
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I didn't say Zab was a good finisher.
I didn't say Maidana was a good finisher.
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Old 07-22-2011, 09:29 AM   #20
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Old 07-22-2011, 09:30 AM   #21
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Maidanaís power and capabilities are overrated. His stoppage of Ortiz was nothing to do with seriously hurting him, just that Ortiz didnít want anymore.

The fact he couldnít finish Khan pretty much shows him up for what he is: a strong crude banger with limited skills. He couldnít even put an old, small Erik Morales away, FFS.
Very true, I think the Morales fight shows more of Maidana's limitations than the Khan fight. Morales made it competative and survived through experience even though his physical gifts have somewhat escaped him - the type of fighter Marcos is was nothing new to Erik and it showed.
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Old 07-22-2011, 09:30 AM   #22
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Yep. Maidana's footwork was atrocious when looking to put finishing touches on Khan. Maidana's KO ratio at world level is rather poor for my liking. Ortiz was more accumulative and a young lad who really didn't have heart in the sport.

Cayo was a nice body shot. Had Corley down but didn't finish job nor Khan. Couldn't dent a past prime Morales. I believe Lucas Matthysse is a better puncher then Marcos.
That's punch power not finishing. Not knocking out a couple of people isn't that damning, a lot of referees would have stopped Khan too. I just don't see the evidence that Judah is a great finisher who will definitely KO Khan if he hurts him like most seem to think.
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Old 07-22-2011, 09:41 AM   #23
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That's punch power not finishing. Not knocking out a couple of people isn't that damning, a lot of referees would have stopped Khan too. I just don't see the evidence that Judah is a great finisher who will definitely KO Khan if he hurts him like most seem to think.
I'm not really talking about him Ko'ing Khan. I think there's likely hood he can. With regards to my comment on Lucas punching harder then Maidana that's just a assessment of my thoughts on Maidana's power. His finishing isn't great at all IMO. Might be good at lower level but against better men he's not shown great ability. Judah finishes pretty decent against likes of Cory Spinks, Santa Cruz,Mabuza

He moves himself into punching range very quickly and unleashes very fast punches and at times works to body. What he does good is punches in bunches and works through and around the guard. Maidana had no idea what to do when Khan pulled full guard.
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Old 07-22-2011, 09:52 AM   #24
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I agree with you guys about Maidana's overrated power and finishing but i would still favor him against Judah, Judah doesn't do well against guys like Maidana.

Khan throws more than Judah and if it goes to points I'm pretty sure Khan wins, but i wouldn't be shocked if Judah stops Khan, Judah is much more accurate than Maidana and Khan might not see the punch coming.
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Old 07-22-2011, 10:11 AM   #25
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Judah's not Maidana..

Judah's strictly a counter-puncher and if he wins, it'll be by KO.

His punch output isn't great, and Khan will probably outwork him. Don't waste your money.
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Old 07-22-2011, 10:12 AM   #26
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I think the ref had a huge part to play in Maidana being unable to finish Khan.
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