Why do people consider Wlad a better boxer than Vitali?

[PH|LLA]

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[IntentionalButt]

Originally Posted by PH|LLA

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...which parts?

[PH|LLA]

Originally Posted by IntentionalButt

...which parts?

the parts that acknowledge Vitali as the superior boxer.

[IntentionalButt]

Originally Posted by PH|LLA

the parts that acknowledge Vitali as the superior boxer.

Then your seal of approval is of trifling value!

[PH|LLA]

Originally Posted by IntentionalButt

Then your seal of approval is of trifling value!

The day you and I have the same point of view on something related to boxing I will have to seriously reconsider my grasp of the sport!

[Montero]

Originally Posted by DanishFightfan

Okay, Wlad has a better jab and straight right (which means that he is more effective against boxer-movers than Vitali is)..
But Vitali's D is far better, he is a superior counter puncher, his punches is much harder to avoid, he keeps working and fights out instead of clinching.. To me he just seems like a much more natural fighter, with a better understanding of the sweet science..
IMO this "Wlad is a better boxer" seems like an ESB myth..

Wlad lands harder and at a higherr connect percentage. Vitali throws more, but it's mostly arm punches and his connect perfentage isn't that great (except with his straight right).

Vitali is the more natural "fighter" of the two, that's pretty clear. But it's a pretty universal thought in the boxing world that Wlad is the far superior athlete, boxer and has faced much better opposition.

It gets harder and harder to compare the two brothers based on their fight performances b/c of the gap b/t their resumes. It appears that will continue even more of the coming years when Vitali retires and Wlad keeps on fighting.

[Montero]

Originally Posted by Blood Green

Vitali wins a greater percentage of rounds. He just looks sloppy.

But he's fought the weaker opposition and less fights than Wlad.

Look guys, even Manny Steward told Lennox Lewis back when he was training him, "the only guy out there that you gotta look out for is that younger Klitschko brother".

Vitali is the tougher guy, the more natural fighter, the meaner motherfucker. But prime for prime Wladimir is better overall and his resume is far superior (amateur and pro). End of discussion.

[IntentionalButt]

Originally Posted by PH|LLA

The day you and I have the same point of view on something related to boxing I will have to seriously reconsider my grasp of the sport!

Surely there has to be some overlap, somewhere - law of averages?

[itsa huge bitch]

Originally Posted by Jennifer Love Hewitt

People confuse being more orthadox with being more skilled.
Vitali is better at everything than Wlad, with the exceptions of power and handspeed.

and better footwork.better at cutting off the ring..overall speed..timing..im guessing u mean to say wlad is better at everything compared to vitali other than the fact vitali has an iron chin..

[PH|LLA]

Originally Posted by IntentionalButt

Surely there has to be some overlap, somewhere - law of averages?

you'd think so, with nearly 100K posts combined... but no.

[itsa huge bitch]

Originally Posted by Montero

But he's fought the weaker opposition and less fights than Wlad.

Look guys, even Manny Steward told Lennox Lewis back when he was training him, "the only guy out there that you gotta look out for is that younger Klitschko brother".

Vitali is the tougher guy, the more natural fighter, the meaner motherfucker. But prime for prime Wladimir is better overall and his resume is far superior (amateur and pro). End of discussion.

[Slacker]

Originally Posted by SILENCER

"Wlad has perfect textbook technique. Stance, movement, punches, etc..

Vitali is the tougher guy, but not "skilled" like Wlad.

Good example:

When Wlad gets hit his reaction is to stop the other guys momentum, recover and then take control of the action.

When Vitali gets hit, his reaction is to exchange.

Wlad is an architect. Vitali is a wrecking ball"

Man, you stole that from something I posted last month.

[Blood Green]

Originally Posted by Montero

But he's fought the weaker opposition and less fights than Wlad.

Look guys, even Manny Steward told Lennox Lewis back when he was training him, "the only guy out there that you gotta look out for is that younger Klitschko brother".

Vitali is the tougher guy, the more natural fighter, the meaner motherfucker. But prime for prime Wladimir is better overall and his resume is far superior (amateur and pro). End of discussion.

The embarrassing loses don't count (that weren't against superior opposition)? Wlad lost rounds to Williamson. Vitali never would.