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Old 08-10-2011, 04:54 PM   #1201
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Because we are not talking about the last few fights of both guys like some are saying. Were talking versatility throughout their entire careers.

How relevant is what they did earlier in their careers? Sure, Floyd would occasionally brawl early on, and Pacquiao was a one-handed puncher. What's important, IMO, is who's more versatile in the ring right now. Floyd is a great fighter, has better instincts than Manny and his actual style is better able to handle different kinds of fighters, but Manny is able to change his in-ring style better.

I guess there's ambiguity in what people mean by "versatilty". If you mean can he beat more different kinds of guys, then Floyd is more versatile without a doubt. But if you mean can he fight in the ring different than he always does, then I really think it's Manny. Both could be considered measures of versatility I guess.
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Old 08-10-2011, 05:24 PM   #1202
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DLH brought the majority of them and that is a fact.... when Floyd fought Baldimor how many PPVs did it sell? okay and that was all on Floyd... When he fought Oscar look at the difference in numbers....
DLH with the help of Tito sold how many ppvs??? Dlh with the help of Floyd sold how many???
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Old 08-10-2011, 05:30 PM   #1203
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That was all boxing the man was in reverse.... try again.
Why brawl when you don't have to?



Also...He beat on a few opponents by just boxing..sometimes u can do it by just boxing and not brawling at all man..some fights are just crowd pleasers with good, crisp, punches.

See the Gatti fight and the Ndou fight..
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Old 08-10-2011, 05:49 PM   #1204
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How relevant is what they did earlier in their careers? Sure, Floyd would occasionally brawl early on, and Pacquiao was a one-handed puncher. What's important, IMO, is who's more versatile in the ring right now. Floyd is a great fighter, has better instincts than Manny and his actual style is better able to handle different kinds of fighters, but Manny is able to change his in-ring style better.

I guess there's ambiguity in what people mean by "versatilty". If you mean can he beat more different kinds of guys, then Floyd is more versatile without a doubt. But if you mean can he fight in the ring different than he always does, then I really think it's Manny. Both could be considered measures of versatility I guess.
Like you, we've seen both guys fight at their best. Versatility in a fight most of the time happens when a fighter is losing, or if a fight is close.

Both guys rising up in weight is phenomenal. Pacquiao committing to the jab more and using the right hook against these wws is not versatility. That is a part of the learning process and being in shape under Roach. Pacquiao making you miss now and fighting off the ropes is versatility-especially the Cotto fight.

Pac did not do that against the smaller, more skilled smaller guys. He couldn't. That isn't a failure nor a slight towards Pacquiao. Floyd went from being aggressive on offense early in his career to offense/defense more.

You remember his dad saying before he fought Chico-after the fought Burton/Augustus that he needs to fight a smart, defensive fight because he was committing more to offense than defense. Floyd Sr knew that he couldn't do that with Chico. Floyd put it all together against Chico.

Floyd showed versatility in both fights with Castillo because he couldn't beat him one way. Castillo put tremendous pressure on Floyd. Floyd boxed and stood flat footed, fought out of the corner, used footwork, stood center ring.

I saw Pacquiao fight the same fight against JMM twice with the exception of coming out slower against JMM in the rematch and many think he lost that fight.

Both show versatility now, but Floyd has been using his versatility for years.

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Old 08-10-2011, 05:50 PM   #1205
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Why brawl when you don't have to?
Correction: Why brawl when you dont have the ability or the self beleif or guts to?
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Old 08-10-2011, 05:51 PM   #1206
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That was all boxing the man was in reverse.... try again.
This is the answer of a mentally beaten boxing fan ****en excuse maker. ****en Rockem, Sockem robot fan
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Old 08-10-2011, 05:52 PM   #1207
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Correction: Why brawl when you dont have the ability or the self beleif or guts to?
Now we all know who we're arguing with ****en pathetic.
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Old 08-10-2011, 05:55 PM   #1208
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Floyd learned from his dad and uncle and combined both styles. Do you think Floyd fought one way his entire career???
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Old 08-10-2011, 06:08 PM   #1209
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Correction: Why brawl when you dont have the ability or the self beleif or guts to?
Why do you talk down on a fighter for using defense?
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Old 08-10-2011, 06:15 PM   #1210
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Why do you talk down on a fighter for using defense?
Don't look at it that way. He's clueless and pissed. His opinion from Floyds ppvs to how Floyd fights is just to piss you off more than anything because he's frustrated There is no basis to any of his points. Floyd not having self belief or guts, lmao. Come on bball.
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Old 08-10-2011, 06:16 PM   #1211
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This is the answer of a mentally beaten boxing fan ****en excuse maker. ****en Rockem, Sockem robot fan
Wrong this is the response of someone who has no leg to stand on...
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Old 08-10-2011, 06:17 PM   #1212
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Why do you talk down on a fighter for using defense?
I am not talking him down I am just saying if you want to talk versatility Floyd knows one way.......... Box (Defensive)

Manny knows how to Box and how to bang it out if need be... Floyd just wont do that even when its clear he has a dead man in front of him such as Baldimor
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Wrong this is the response of someone who has no leg to stand on...
Yo, you're killing me
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Old 08-10-2011, 06:21 PM   #1214
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I am not talking him down I am just saying if you want to talk versatility Floyd knows one way.......... Box (Defensive)

Manny knows how to Box and how to bang it out if need be... Floyd just wont do that even when its clear he has a dead man in front of him such as Baldimor
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Correction: Why brawl when you dont have the ability or the self beleif or guts to?
Bazooka that would defeat the point of the actual "sport"...

the point is to hit and not get hit..

IF you have the SKILL to hit the guy W/OUT getting hit then your "playing the game right"

IS A RUNNING BACK GONNA RUN AWAY FROM THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE AND LOSE YARDS SO HE CAN MAKE IT MORE INTERESTING OR EXCITING OR WHATEVER WE WANNA CALL IT??

I DONT THINK SO CUZ THE POINT OF THE SPORT IS TO MOVE FORWARD..

JUST AS THE POINT OF BOXING IS TO HIT AND NOT GET HIT...

I see what your saying and I SEE THE POINT YOUR TRYING TO MAKE..

Problem is that it goes against "the object of the game"
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