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View Poll Results: Mayweather vs. Pacquiao is now meaningless?
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Old 08-10-2011, 06:49 PM   #1216
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Bazooka that would defeat the point of the actual "sport"...

the point is to hit and not get hit..

IF you have the SKILL to hit the guy W/OUT getting hit then your "playing the game right"

IS A RUNNING BACK GONNA RUN AWAY FROM THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE AND LOSE YARDS SO HE CAN MAKE IT MORE INTERESTING OR EXCITING OR WHATEVER WE WANNA CALL IT??

I DONT THINK SO CUZ THE POINT OF THE SPORT IS TO MOVE FORWARD..

JUST AS THE POINT OF BOXING IS TO HIT AND NOT GET HIT...

I see what your saying and I SEE THE POINT YOUR TRYING TO MAKE..

Problem is that it goes against "the object of the game"
See it from another point of view.

Floyd doesn't wanna brawl cause he's thinking "I can land 4 punches on this guy and he only lands 1 on me, I'm winning this fight easy."

Pac wants to brawl cause he's thinking "I can land 20 punches on this guy and he lands 5 on me, I'm winning this fight easy."

So both ways work. Even if Floyd only gets hit once, he only hits his opponent 4 times. Pac gets hit 5 times, but he is hitting his opponent with 20 punches. And he knows he can dish it out better than anyone else.

Pac has no reason NOT to brawl. But sometimes he doesn't do it cause he can win either way. Pac can go toe to toe with anyone in the sport. He can also outbox a whole shitload of people. Floyd can't really go toe to toe with fighters who are good at it.
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Old 08-10-2011, 06:57 PM   #1217
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See it from another point of view.

Floyd doesn't wanna brawl cause he's thinking "I can land 4 punches on this guy and he only lands 1 on me, I'm winning this fight easy."

Pac wants to brawl cause he's thinking "I can land 20 punches on this guy and he lands 5 on me, I'm winning this fight easy."

So both ways work. Even if Floyd only gets hit once, he only hits his opponent 4 times. Pac gets hit 5 times, but he is hitting his opponent with 20 punches. And he knows he can dish it out better than anyone else.

Pac has no reason NOT to brawl. But sometimes he doesn't do it cause he can win either way. Pac can go toe to toe with anyone in the sport. He can also outbox a whole shitload of people. Floyd can't really go toe to toe with fighters who are good at it.


I do see it at his point of view..I said it in the post..I see exactly what he is trying to say..

but to do that would be taking away from the actual sport of it..

I mean are the colts gonna run the ball all the time when they can throw and be successful..

I see exactly what your saying....It just makes 0 sense to go "away" from the point of the actual game IF you don't have to...

I should say the Colts should quit throwing then...

Good debate though but I dont see it like that at all.

Your asking the athlete (or wondering if the athlete actually can) to go away from the entire point of the sport..to change the process "on purpose" in winning the game..

That is not what you do and it goes against the entire point of the sport itself...
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Old 08-10-2011, 07:00 PM   #1218
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back to boxing..

Floyd PROVED his versatility when he showed he can fight "hurt"

Go watch round 2 of Mosley-Mayweather...

I HAVE NEVER SEEN A FIGHTER "FIGHT HURT" THE WAY FLOYD DID..

ITS AS IF HE HAS DRILLS IN CAMP TO LITERALLY PRACTICE DIFFERENT POSITIONS HE MIGHT BE IN SUCH AS BEING HURT AND HE EXECUTED THOSE PLANS IN THE REAL FIGHT ("YOU FIGHT THE WAY YOU TRAIN").........

O WAIT, HE DOES HAVE THOSE DRILLS...

Floyd is more versatile than Manny and it shows within his fight game.
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Old 08-10-2011, 07:01 PM   #1219
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See it from another point of view.

Floyd doesn't wanna brawl cause he's thinking "I can land 4 punches on this guy and he only lands 1 on me, I'm winning this fight easy."

Pac wants to brawl cause he's thinking "I can land 20 punches on this guy and he lands 5 on me, I'm winning this fight easy."

So both ways work. Even if Floyd only gets hit once, he only hits his opponent 4 times. Pac gets hit 5 times, but he is hitting his opponent with 20 punches. And he knows he can dish it out better than anyone else.

Pac has no reason NOT to brawl. But sometimes he doesn't do it cause he can win either way. Pac can go toe to toe with anyone in the sport. He can also outbox a whole shitload of people. Floyd can't really go toe to toe with fighters who are good at it.
This is why you're looked at as a ****en pactard with a shit opinion
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Old 08-10-2011, 07:20 PM   #1220
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See it from another point of view.

Floyd doesn't wanna brawl cause he's thinking "I can land 4 punches on this guy and he only lands 1 on me, I'm winning this fight easy."

Pac wants to brawl cause he's thinking "I can land 20 punches on this guy and he lands 5 on me, I'm winning this fight easy."

So both ways work. Even if Floyd only gets hit once, he only hits his opponent 4 times. Pac gets hit 5 times, but he is hitting his opponent with 20 punches. And he knows he can dish it out better than anyone else.

Pac has no reason NOT to brawl. But sometimes he doesn't do it cause he can win either way. Pac can go toe to toe with anyone in the sport. He can also outbox a whole shitload of people. Floyd can't really go toe to toe with fighters who are good at it.
I actually disagree with alot of this Philla..

I have been in the ring many times and it isn't as easy as how u put it, AND IT IS NOT NEARLY THAT SIMPLE..(REFERENCING PARAGRAPHS 1-3

LOL IF ONLY IT WERE...
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Old 08-10-2011, 07:26 PM   #1221
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Is this a serious question? Pac would even tell u the answer is Mayweather.
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Old 08-10-2011, 07:45 PM   #1222
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floyd hands down *take the test*
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Old 08-10-2011, 11:15 PM   #1223
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That was all boxing the man was in reverse.... try again.


u said $May takeing the fight to his opp with the intent of geting them out of there (all the examples i gave are exactly that) ill give u a litile bit of leighway on the brawling part of ur ? but its not mays fault he was to good and his opp in said bouts could not brawl back and make it a dog fight for the most part. if n e thing that is a testimate to mays abitity to take the fight to a opp he his trying to ko and toatally nulify them.
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Old 08-10-2011, 11:26 PM   #1224
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Is this a serious question? Pac would even tell u the answer is Mayweather.
it's funny because I bet Pac would agree with that
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Old 08-10-2011, 11:49 PM   #1225
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Floyd...hands down. He has shown an ability to box, brawl, fight inside, outside, going backwards and forwards, great defense, great jab (when used), fight orthodox, or southpaw, etc.

Very talented fighter..
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Old 08-11-2011, 12:08 AM   #1226
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Yes, praise king Pacquiao.


****en moron
Hey...I give credit where it's due. Praise is earned not bought or given. I love the novelty of some shortbus riding Joy Boy who has to wear a helmet just to walk to the bathroom having the nerve to call me a "****en moron". Fall back and don't come at me with that weak sauce kid. You'll get your skirt pulled up and exposed doing that.
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Old 08-11-2011, 12:14 AM   #1227
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what i said completely goes with why i voted that mayweather is MORE versatile than pac... it is his versatility that has HELPED him not lose to any fighter so far...he's able to adjust to everything that is thrown his way...when he gets hurt/stunned, he adjusts so that it doesn't happen again.... i think some people need to look up that word and see the real definition instead of having their fandom for their fighter cloud their logic. Does this mean that pac isn't a good fighter? no.... but does it mean that mayweather is more versatile? yes.
I'm not knocking anyone who voted for Floyd as being more versatile. I just have a different perspective on how I'm basing my opinion. Versatility has many different layers and elements that have to be considered....but too many cats on here are just regurgitating what they heard and not thinking about all the variables. I see that a lot here....most cant' nor won't implement critical thinking when they are so emotionally tied to their "favorite" fighter.

Floyd versatility has helped him not lose but it's PAC's versatility that has helped him reach the highest level of the sweet science. He's dominating and is the best fighter of this generation based on what's he's done and how he's done it. You don't get to this stage being One demensional.

PAC's been hurt, stunned and losing only to adapt, adjust and come back to win....and he's doing that against guys on the ELITE level. Floyd does that too but his resume indicates he's not testing himself against the toughest of opposition. He's got Corrales, DLH, Mosley and JLC. Those are the ELITES but I'm actually being nice adding in Diego and JLC.
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Old 08-11-2011, 12:16 AM   #1228
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Floyd
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Old 08-11-2011, 01:05 AM   #1229
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Wrong this is the response of someone who has no leg to stand on...
You really are a sad individual. Your whole argument on why you think Pac is more versatile than Floyd is because Floyd won't plant his feet, abandon his defense, and just start shooting for the fences. I mean really?

But I guess that is the kind of logic to expect someone who has a David Haye avatar. Especially after the embarrassment of a fight he put on against Vlad.
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Old 08-11-2011, 01:19 AM   #1230
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...look at the poll..but but but...Pac is more versatile...everyone knows it...
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