will chagaev win?? - Page 3

pirao666 · 08-12-2011, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Artani

Its a good for boxing if we have Povetkin a winner of this match. The fights with one of Klitschkos will be amazin fight. Only Povetkin will stop Klitschkos for the moment.

Even Povetkin doesn't believe he can beat the Klitschkos

How can you beat someone when you don't even have confidence in yourself?

Kalasinn · 08-12-2011, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by pirao666

Even Povetkin doesn't believe he can beat the Klitschkos

How can you beat someone when you don't even have confidence in yourself?

Povetkin never could beat a Klit bro... but i blame Atlas for damaging the mentality of Povetkin.

saintsmike · 08-16-2011, 05:52 PM

Wrote an article on this one. [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

The world of boxing has been quiet, the gloves have been left in the locker rooms, the rings are rusty, and the talk of potential showdowns and fights has been filling boxing forums. Finally on August 27th we will witness a good heavyweight showdown of sizable proportions literally when the unbeaten Alexander Povetkin faces “The White Tyson” Ruslan Chagaev.

The career of Alexander Povetkin is a strange one he’s now at 21 and 0. He had earmarked for world titles after a glorious amateur career and was rushed in fast professionally against solid opposition. Having beaten the likes of Chris Byrd and Eddie Chambers in his first 15 fights, many thought it was only a matter of time before he would be in the ring with a Klitschko.

However Povetkin slowed down his career when he switched coaches, from working with his amateur coach Valery Belov to Teddy Atlas. This has hindered Povetkin and the realities of Atlas and Povetkin working together successfully in my opinion are unfeasible.

Atlas isn’t a dedicated trainer; he commits a considerable amount of time to broadcasting on ESPN and is constantly away from the gym. The fact Povetkin resides in Russia and Atlas in America makes this partnership even more problematic.Whilst Atlas has been putting his own personal stamp on Povetkin’s style by changing him from effective powerful swamer with a brutal body attack to a more considered counter puncher.

The results haven’t exactly been pretty, a closely fought decision win over Jason Estrada and laboured victories over journeymen such as Nicole Firtha and the overweight Javier Mora from a potential Klitschko killer to a bum-beater. Povetkin had probably faced better opponents in his first five fights than his last fight.

A focused fight camp is one of the many things that fighters simply have to get right in preparation before a fight, if Povetkin is only getting 25% of Atlas’s attention, whilst Chagaev has a full time trainer at his beckon call the difference will show up on fight night.

If Povetkin attempts to play the role of counter-puncher against Chagaev he will lose, Chagaev is an excellent counter-puncher and times his punches to perfection, if the fight turns into a chess match then Povetkin should revert to what he was before Atlas came in and decided to derail his career.

Sadly such is the personality of Teddy Atlas that Povetkin will probably follow his trainer’s instructions and the completion of Povetkin’s demise from contender to pretender will be complete. They say in boxing that you should always listen to your trainer’s advice; sometimes it’s best to follow your own gut instinct that’s why they call it fighting instinct. Such is the power of trainers nowadays that they can make or shape a fighter’s career. Sometimes unfortunately it can be for the worst.

Hank · 08-23-2011, 10:49 PM

That is good article Saintmike, Atlas definitely screwed him up. To change a guys style so late in career, and after so much success, is plain stupid.

Artani · 08-24-2011, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Hank

That is good article Saintmike, Atlas definitely screwed him up. To change a guys style so late in career, and after so much success, is plain stupid.

Wait and see, dont predict before. The first challange is on August 27th ?

08-16-2011, 05:52 PM	#33
saintsmike Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Southampton Posts: 964 vCash: 1000	Re: will chagaev win?? Wrote an article on this one. [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] The world of boxing has been quiet, the gloves have been left in the locker rooms, the rings are rusty, and the talk of potential showdowns and fights has been filling boxing forums. Finally on August 27th we will witness a good heavyweight showdown of sizable proportions literally when the unbeaten Alexander Povetkin faces “The White Tyson” Ruslan Chagaev. The career of Alexander Povetkin is a strange one he’s now at 21 and 0. He had earmarked for world titles after a glorious amateur career and was rushed in fast professionally against solid opposition. Having beaten the likes of Chris Byrd and Eddie Chambers in his first 15 fights, many thought it was only a matter of time before he would be in the ring with a Klitschko. However Povetkin slowed down his career when he switched coaches, from working with his amateur coach Valery Belov to Teddy Atlas. This has hindered Povetkin and the realities of Atlas and Povetkin working together successfully in my opinion are unfeasible. Atlas isn’t a dedicated trainer; he commits a considerable amount of time to broadcasting on ESPN and is constantly away from the gym. The fact Povetkin resides in Russia and Atlas in America makes this partnership even more problematic.Whilst Atlas has been putting his own personal stamp on Povetkin’s style by changing him from effective powerful swamer with a brutal body attack to a more considered counter puncher. The results haven’t exactly been pretty, a closely fought decision win over Jason Estrada and laboured victories over journeymen such as Nicole Firtha and the overweight Javier Mora from a potential Klitschko killer to a bum-beater. Povetkin had probably faced better opponents in his first five fights than his last fight. A focused fight camp is one of the many things that fighters simply have to get right in preparation before a fight, if Povetkin is only getting 25% of Atlas’s attention, whilst Chagaev has a full time trainer at his beckon call the difference will show up on fight night. If Povetkin attempts to play the role of counter-puncher against Chagaev he will lose, Chagaev is an excellent counter-puncher and times his punches to perfection, if the fight turns into a chess match then Povetkin should revert to what he was before Atlas came in and decided to derail his career. Sadly such is the personality of Teddy Atlas that Povetkin will probably follow his trainer’s instructions and the completion of Povetkin’s demise from contender to pretender will be complete. They say in boxing that you should always listen to your trainer’s advice; sometimes it’s best to follow your own gut instinct that’s why they call it fighting instinct. Such is the power of trainers nowadays that they can make or shape a fighter’s career. Sometimes unfortunately it can be for the worst.
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08-23-2011, 10:49 PM	#34
Hank Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,726 vCash: 1000	Re: will chagaev win?? That is good article Saintmike, Atlas definitely screwed him up. To change a guys style so late in career, and after so much success, is plain stupid.
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