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17 | 16.67% |
| Vitali |
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85 | 83.33% |
| Voters: 102. You may not vote on this poll | |||
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Chin Scholar
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Ike Ibeabuchi
Record 20-0 Notable wins: Prime undefeated Chris Byrd (TKO5) Prime undefeated David Tua (UD) Losses: None Vitali Klitschko Record 42-2 Notable wins: Herbie Hide (KO2) Faded out of shape Corrie Sanders (TKO8 Out of shape Sam Peter (RTD8 Undefeated Solis (KO1) Losses: Chris Byrd (took the fight on a week notice) (Quit 9th) Out of shape faded Lennox Lewis (TKO6) ------------- Obviously Ike has the two best single wins, but Vitali arguably has the better body of work, but also has two losses. Who has the better resume? |
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I dont think this is even close. Vtali was and is the heavyweight champion of the world.
Ike is a crazy convicted rapist with a so so record beating Byrd and Tua , two of the worst title holders/challengers of the heavyweight title. |
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I'll put things in context here.
Ike, by far, has the best victory in a green byrd. However vitali has far more depth here with victories over hide, donald, johnson, sanders, williams, peter, gomez and arreola. You'd struggle compiling a top 5 for ike, whereas vitali has a decent top 5. Vitali certainly fought a better version of byrd and one i'd favour over ike and pretty much anyone from 99 onwards bar wlad and lewis. |
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Quote:
Redacted from Wikipedia, a pretty facinating read: Immediately after the fight with Tua, Ibeabuchi began complaining of a terrible headache. He was taken directly to the hospital where he underwent several tests, including an MRI. From what the latest advances in scientific technology could detect, there was nothing at all wrong with him. He showed no evidence of brain bleeds or swelling. Nothing was found and he was sent home with a clean bill of health. After being released from the hospital, Ibeabuchi began to swear that he was being plagued by demons; evil spirits that only he and his mother could see. A couple of months after the Tua fight, distraught over a perceived snub in the WBC rankings, Ibeabuchi abducted the 15-year-old son of his former girlfriend and slammed his car into a concrete pillar on Interstate 35 north of Austin Texas. According to the criminal complaint, the boy suffered "numerous injuries" from the accident "and will never walk normally again." Ibeabuchi was charged with kidnapping and attempted murder, but the courts concluded he was trying to commit suicide and he was sentenced to 120 days after pleading guilty to false imprisonment. He also paid a $500,000 civil settlement. "It was a very frustrating case because what he did wasn't as clearly criminal as what I expected him to get involved with down the line," said District Attorney John Bradley, who prosecuted Ibeabuchi. "I fully expected that his contact with the criminal justice system had not ended with our county. We weren't able to get him examined, but it sure seemed to me -- even if he was a heavyweight boxer looking at making millions of dollars -- that he should have been committed to a psychiatric community and treated." Ibeabuchi developed a new persona based on his nickname, "The President." At times when he was being churlish or refusing to complete a simple requirement such as attending a weigh-in, his handlers would appeal to The President's regal nature by convincing him it was the noble thing to do. "There were times when he thought he was really a president," boxing promoter and former HBO Sports executive Lou DiBella said. "He would get into these mental states where he insisted on people calling him The President. It was his alter ago, where 'I am The President,' not of the United States, but maybe the world." Promoter Cedric Kushner said Ibeabuchi on two occasions had to be literally dragged onto airplanes before fights because of perceived demonic forces. Then there was the time Ibeabuchi wielded a knife during a dinner meeting in New York to discuss a possible three-fight HBO deal. "We were having a fine meal at a nice restaurant," Kushner said, "and mid-course Ike picked up a big carving knife, slammed it into the table and screamed 'They knew it! They knew it! The belts belong to me! Why don't they just give them back.'" "That was a peculiar experience," Kushner said. "That wasn't the type of conduct I expected to romance the guy from HBO. (Ibeabuchi) was like a Viking." Then he went nuts and badly beat up a sparring partner for giving him a cut on his eye accidently. And then he raped an escort girl in his flat who was supposedly only there to strip. When the police did some digging they found that there was pretty solid evidence that he had comitted a sexual offense in some other place, and dumped that on him as well. When they finally decided that he was sane enough to stand trial, he got a fair few years, and faces deportation once his time inside is over. |
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Champion
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Well, you could say you thought it was a prime vs prime poll
At least then you'd have a case since Ike could have probably chopped the Vitali tree down. He was nearing his peak when he lost it, and there's no telling how great he could have become.
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