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Old 09-10-2011, 07:38 AM   #46
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Vitali has much more power then tua...
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Old 09-10-2011, 07:44 AM   #47
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Ibeabuchi has the best two wins, without question. They have a common opponent in Byrd, who Ibeabuchi knocked out and Vitali lost to. Obviously Vitali has never beaten anyone as good as Tua.

Vitali has more depth, Ibeabuchi has more quality. Ibeabuchi was the better fighter.
Ike beat a green Byrd...there's not much to compare between the Byrd who fought Ike and the one who fought Vitali.

Vitali has never beaten anyone as good as Tua?...really?
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Old 09-10-2011, 07:53 AM   #48
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Ike beat a green Byrd...there's not much to compare between the Byrd who fought Ike and the one who fought Vitali.

Vitali has never beaten anyone as good as Tua?...really?
Byrd may not have been in his prime but there was only a years difference between the Ibeabuchi loss and Vitali win. If you're going to say that Ibeabuchi beat a green Byrd, fine, but then you must also say that Vitali lost to a green Byrd because he did not become a better fighter from 1999 to 2000.

Ibeabuchi smashed him in 5 and Byrd beat Vitali in 9 and it was the same version of Byrd.

And, yes, really. Who is Vitali's best win? Sanders? Please. Tua would have walked through him and stopped him inside a round or two.
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Old 09-10-2011, 07:59 AM   #49
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Why would I care what anyone on this forum thinks? The vast majority on here, including you, know absolutely nothing about boxing. You've never sat down and watched fights on grainy footage, you've never spent hours reading old editions of boxing magazines, you haven't ever got beyond spamming ESB and browsing BoxRec for every result you need. People like you know absolutely nothing about the sport of boxing. You don't know it's history, you don't know about styles, you don't know about anything.

If 32 people disagree with me, then I'm happy. I don't want to be in the majority because the vast majority of you are ignorant about boxing.

why's always the clueless re****s that babble about being boxing experts? most if not all of your posts are either biased by your favorism for english fighters or your hate for the Klits
I remember the laughable predictions you made for the Klit-Haye fight.

If so many ppl. disagree with you, chances are that not all of them are a bunch of dumb****s and maybe they know something more then you don't, or maybe they see the real thing without letting things such as hate and favorism get in their head.

If you think that Ike has a better resume just because he beat a green Byrd and a never-has-been Tua, then you really are a ****ing re****
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Old 09-10-2011, 08:14 AM   #50
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why's always the clueless re****s that babble about being boxing experts? most if not all of your posts are either biased by your favorism for english fighters or your hate for the Klits
I remember the laughable predictions you made for the Klit-Haye fight.

If so many ppl. disagree with you, chances are that not all of them are a bunch of dumb****s and maybe they know something more then you don't, or maybe they see the real thing without letting things such as hate and favorism get in their head.

If you think that Ike has a better resume just because he beat a green Byrd and a never-has-been Tua, then you really are a ****ing re****
No, I'm pretty sure I'm right and they're wrong but thanks for the advice.

Again, if you consider Byrd green then you must also say that Vitali lost to a green Byrd. Did he?
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Old 09-10-2011, 08:57 AM   #51
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No, I'm pretty sure I'm right and they're wrong but thanks for the advice.

Again, if you consider Byrd green then you must also say that Vitali lost to a green Byrd. Did he?
he lost cause he injured a shoulder when he was ahead on scorecards. He never even rematched Byrd because it was obvious who would win in a rematch. That actually makes Vitaly great because the only way to beat him is to wait for him to get injured. You can't KO or outbox him.
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Old 09-10-2011, 09:08 AM   #52
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he lost cause he injured a shoulder when he was ahead on scorecards. He never even rematched Byrd because it was obvious who would win in a rematch. That actually makes Vitaly great because the only way to beat him is to wait for him to get injured. You can't KO or outbox him.

That's a good one.
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Old 09-10-2011, 09:11 AM   #53
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That's a good one.
You think King Vitaly would injure his shoulder again in a rematch?
cause if he won't how else would Byrd beat him.
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Old 09-10-2011, 10:00 AM   #54
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Unfair poll.

Ike's career was stopped short by the Russian Mob to allow the Klit girl to rise.

The better poll would have been, who was the better boxer with superior all around technique. Than the correct answer would have been, Ike Ibeabuchi by a wide indisputable distance.

Ike by KO, round 8
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Old 09-10-2011, 10:08 AM   #55
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You think King Vitaly would injure his shoulder again in a rematch?
cause if he won't how else would Byrd beat him.
What score did you have the fight at the time of vitali quitting?

At what point in the fight do you believe the injury happened?
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Old 09-10-2011, 10:34 AM   #56
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That's a good one.

you think Byrd was capable of beating him without Vitali injuring himself?
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Old 09-10-2011, 11:45 AM   #57
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What score did you have the fight at the time of vitali quitting?

At what point in the fight do you believe the injury happened?

It's very difficult to score the fight because Vitaly looked like a cripple in there. I think after round 3 he could hardly throw a jab. Vitaly was still up on scorecards, but he looked like he was in a lot of pain and he was more hurt when he thew left hand then when Byrd hit him. I just really don't like watching that fight.
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Old 09-10-2011, 01:06 PM   #58
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Clearly not even comparable. Ibeabuchi is, hands down, the most overrated fighter of the last 30 years.
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Old 09-10-2011, 01:22 PM   #59
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It's very difficult to score the fight because Vitaly looked like a cripple in there. I think after round 3 he could hardly throw a jab. Vitaly was still up on scorecards, but he looked like he was in a lot of pain and he was more hurt when he thew left hand then when Byrd hit him. I just really don't like watching that fight.
He constantly threw with both hands throughout the fight though.

Rounds 5-9 were controlled by Byrd barring round 8 when Vitali had his best round in ages.

I had Byrd 1 point down at the time Vitali quit. he'd have certainly deserved a victory IMO had it carried on.
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Old 09-10-2011, 02:00 PM   #60
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Ike Ibeabuchi

Record 20-0

Notable wins:

Prime undefeated Chris Byrd (TKO5)
Prime undefeated David Tua (UD)

Losses:

None

Vitali Klitschko

Record 42-2

Notable wins:

Herbie Hide (KO2)
Faded out of shape Corrie Sanders (TKO8
Out of shape Sam Peter (RTD8
Undefeated Solis (KO1)

Losses:

Chris Byrd (took the fight on a week notice) (Quit 9th)
Out of shape faded Lennox Lewis (TKO6)

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Obviously Ike has the two best single wins, but Vitali arguably has the better body of work, but also has two losses. Who has the better resume?
Ike didn't have enough fights to compare resumes. Yeah he beat the best version of Tua(who was no joke, not the fat plodding guy that Lewis fought), and Chris Byrd when he was undefeated, but that is two guys. Vitali has too many name guys on his resume to even compare resumes.
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