Tired of lay and pray guidas and gsps.

Theologicaldisc · 09-15-2011, 09:24 AM

Sick of it. UFC needs to do something about these wrestlers that just take you down then LOL IMMA JUST LAY ON YOU GG LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLO LOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOL OLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLO LOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOL OLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
ILL MOVE MY SHOULDER FOR TWO SECONDS LIKE IM TRYING TO PASS
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tired of it.

Stoo · 09-15-2011, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by theologicaldisc

sick of it. Ufc needs to do something about these wrestlers that just take you down then lol imma just lay on you gg lololololololollololololololollololololololollololololololollololololololollololololololollololololo lolollololololololollololololololollololololololollololololololollololololololollololololololollolol ololololollololololololollololololololollololololololollololololololollololololololollololololololol lololololololollololololololollololololololollololololololollololololololollololololololollololololo lolollololololololollololololololollololololololollololololololollololololololollololololololollolol ololololollololololololollololololololollololololololollololololololollololololololollololololololol lololololololollololololololollololololololol
ill move my shoulder for two seconds like im trying to pass
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tired of it.

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unloco · 09-15-2011, 10:01 AM

good article , would read again

Popkins · 09-15-2011, 10:13 AM

I must admit, I also detest lay n pray. I wish they would tweak the rules to make it impossible for someone to lie on top of someone else for the full fight. That isn't fighting, it's preventing a fight and running the clock down in the safest way possible. The sport shouldn't be about that.

ZeRussian · 09-15-2011, 10:52 AM

They should use yellow and red cards like they did in PRIDE.

Jim Bowen · 09-15-2011, 12:04 PM

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They should use yellow and red cards like they did in PRIDE.

would be the simplest way of doing it. i reckon gsp would fight more if he stood to lose a quarter of a mil for lying on someone.

SouthpawSlayer · 09-15-2011, 12:10 PM

its fucking despicable i agree, mma is distancing itself further and further from actual streetfighting since it begun and there is a niche in the market now for the old mma like the early UFC 's and pride and id say in around 10 years something new will have come out

greathamza · 09-15-2011, 12:28 PM

http://208.90.155.93/2009/03/13/cool-face.web.jpg

Hookercut · 09-15-2011, 12:28 PM

The sport is being taken over by boring wrestlers.

JohnJohn · 09-15-2011, 01:07 PM

Or just watch kickboxing. Simple really.

Beekeeper · 09-15-2011, 01:30 PM

Dont worry guys, its cool, Shinya Aoki is coming to North America soon to sort this LnP shit out!

MetalMandible · 09-15-2011, 01:33 PM

GSP actually does pass guard with fluidity and regularity, he just does nothing once he attains dominant positions. Guida, on the other hand, is a classic LnP artist and a disgrace to the sport.

I agree wholeheartedly with Popkins, LnP is nothing more than stopping a fight from ever happening and that's irrefutable. If two dudes started scrapping in a bar and one got punched in the face once, took the other guy down, and held him there for fifteen minutes there wouldn't be a single person there that would say, "oh shit, that dude just got his ass kicked!".

A lot of this can be attributed to the number of Glass Jaws in the game. Guys with shaky whiskers that know they can be KOed like GSP are going to do everything in their power to avoid it and that often means stifling grappling because top position is the only time one isn't in danger of being starched.

Wilhelm · 09-15-2011, 01:45 PM

GSP doesn't just take guys down and hold onto them like Guida does. He tries to finish with GNP, as in the Penn fight. People go on and on about how badass Penn is, see GSP GNP him into quitting and don't put two and two together. Guida vs. Pettis was a good example of a guy NOT trying to finish from the top. There should have been a dozen stand ups in that fight.

MetalMandible · 09-15-2011, 01:47 PM

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GSP doesn't just take guys down and hold onto them like Guida does. He tries to finish with GNP, as in the Penn fight. People go on and on about how badass Penn is, see GSP GNP him into quitting and don't put two and two together. Guida vs. Pettis was a good example of a guy NOT trying to finish from the top. There should have been a dozen stand ups in that fight.

Penn was the last guy GSP actually tried to beat up and he was a natural LW. GSP doesn't straight LnP because he does razor through dude's guards all the time but once he's in dominant position he doesn't do a fucking thing with it aside from rubbing some elbows across them or arm punching the body.

jimmie · 09-15-2011, 01:56 PM

Jon Fitch is good for this to. Burry the head in someones chest so they cant move, throw really light punches for points so it doesnt get stood up. No risk = boring win.

09-15-2011, 09:24 AM	#1
Theologicaldisc Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 400 vCash: 500	Tired of lay and pray guidas and gsps. Sick of it. UFC needs to do something about these wrestlers that just take you down then LOL IMMA JUST LAY ON YOU GG LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLO LOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOL OLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLO LOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOL OLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL ILL MOVE MY SHOULDER FOR TWO SECONDS LIKE IM TRYING TO PASS LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLO LOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOL OLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLO LOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOL OLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLO LOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOL OLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLO LOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOL OLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLO LOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOL OLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLO LOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL tired of it.
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SouthpawSlayer Im coming for you East Side Guru Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Gay St Pierre Posts: 9,103 vCash: 75	Re: Tired of lay and pray guidas and gsps. its fucking despicable i agree, mma is distancing itself further and further from actual streetfighting since it begun and there is a niche in the market now for the old mma like the early UFC 's and pride and id say in around 10 years something new will have come out
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09-15-2011, 01:33 PM	#12
MetalMandible Chinchecker ESB Addict Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: GA Posts: 3,773 vCash: 500	Re: Tired of lay and pray guidas and gsps. GSP actually does pass guard with fluidity and regularity, he just does nothing once he attains dominant positions. Guida, on the other hand, is a classic LnP artist and a disgrace to the sport. I agree wholeheartedly with Popkins, LnP is nothing more than stopping a fight from ever happening and that's irrefutable. If two dudes started scrapping in a bar and one got punched in the face once, took the other guy down, and held him there for fifteen minutes there wouldn't be a single person there that would say, "oh shit, that dude just got his ass kicked!". A lot of this can be attributed to the number of Glass Jaws in the game. Guys with shaky whiskers that know they can be KOed like GSP are going to do everything in their power to avoid it and that often means stifling grappling because top position is the only time one isn't in danger of being starched.
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Wilhelm Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The Northwoods of Wisconsin, USA Posts: 3,525 vCash: 1000	Re: Tired of lay and pray guidas and gsps. GSP doesn't just take guys down and hold onto them like Guida does. He tries to finish with GNP, as in the Penn fight. People go on and on about how badass Penn is, see GSP GNP him into quitting and don't put two and two together. Guida vs. Pettis was a good example of a guy NOT trying to finish from the top. There should have been a dozen stand ups in that fight.
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09-15-2011, 01:56 PM	#15
jimmie P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Posts: 15,233 vCash: 1000	Re: Tired of lay and pray guidas and gsps. Jon Fitch is good for this to. Burry the head in someones chest so they cant move, throw really light punches for points so it doesnt get stood up. No risk = boring win.
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