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Old 09-25-2011, 06:26 AM   #31
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Thanks, Luf. Non illegitimus parvus carborundrum!

With my Arreola reference I was just stating, perhaps with a bit too much hyperbole, my conviction that boxing, especially in the HW division, has come a long way in the past 75 or 80 years. I'm surprised that some people don't seem to be able to accept that.
I teach maths not latin

In a sport based on two men fighting each other I think advancements are overstated.
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Old 09-28-2011, 10:56 AM   #32
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I teach maths not latin

In a sport based on two men fighting each other I think advancements are overstated.
Yeah, I'm no latin master, either, but "Non illegitimus parvus carborundum" means "Don't let the little *******s grind you down".
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Old 09-28-2011, 11:07 AM   #33
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imo Liston is still riding on a lot of revised 1980s tyson chic.
early on in my existence here I preached this to much derision.
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Old 09-28-2011, 11:38 AM   #34
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Ali up to Frazier 2 = enlarged but lesser Jimmy Young with more dirty tricks in his bag . or will a lesser Herol Graham with luck fit d bill better ?
Jimmy Young = lesser albeit enlarged Pernell Whitaker .
(1974 and on) Ali = enlarged Hopkins minus d head
Liston = Rahman
Folley = Barrett
Cleveland Williams = taller Darroll Wilson
Lyle = lesser Ross Puritty
Patterson , Ellis , Charles = skilled supermiddles/lightheavies fighting at cruiser vs. their own kind
Shavers , Cream = skilled but clean cruisers paying for their clean style
Louis = lesser , darker but bigger Kelly Pavlik minus d alcoholism and minus d punch resistance with a tad bit more skill .
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