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Old 10-02-2011, 09:10 PM   #31
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It boggles the mind. I understand that you want to support the fighter from your own country, but that shouldn't give you a license to bullshit. The panel of so-called Boxing experts on Saturday evening embarrassed themselves thoroughly.
no doubt....how can anyone not like sergio? besides the UK can claim him..hes a man without a country...but they are pissed off he hangs out in the u.s.
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Old 10-02-2011, 09:15 PM   #32
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There's historical bad blood between Argentina and England for political reasons. I'm not surprised one bit by what Sky was saying. The fact that Sergio is Argentine no doubt contributes significantly to the situation.
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Old 10-02-2011, 09:17 PM   #33
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There's historical bad blood between Argentina and England for political reasons. I'm not surprised one bit by what Sky was saying. The fact that Sergio is Argentine no doubt contributes significantly to the situation.
It's sad.
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Old 10-02-2011, 09:37 PM   #34
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I agree, don't fancy him much either. He thinks he is all of that and thinks he deserves/entitled to big money fights, yet nobody wants anything to do with him or go watch his fights. Dibella said there was 4,400 people there, did not look like it. He was also paid $1.5 million while Barker only received $400,000 and Barker to me had the better performance considering what he was paid. He is also supposed to be paid $2.3 million per fight from here on out, so for those who keep saying "He deserves the big money fights, he deserves it!", He is already getting hefty change now, so cut that crap out.
There are many things I don't like about him. But one thing that gets me is Pavlik gave Martinez a shot at the title. Martinez makes the slitting the throat gesture at the weight in, I don't like that. And when Pavlik is bleeding profusely Martinez starts show boating, I dont like that either. And then to top it all off Martinez does not give Pavlik a rematch at 164. Pavlik gave you a shot at the title Martinez you owe him. Pavlik had no problem giving Taylor a rematch at 164 which was what Taylor demanded.

Plus the guy thinks he has style but looks like sht, his hair cut is rediculous. He also compleatly butchers the slick style of boxing also imo.
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Old 10-02-2011, 09:44 PM   #35
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There are many things I don't like about him. But one thing that gets me is Pavlik gave Martinez a shot at the title. Martinez makes the slitting the throat gesture at the weight in, I don't like that. And when Pavlik is bleeding profusely Martinez starts show boating, I dont like that either. And then to top it all off Martinez does not give Pavlik a rematch at 164. Pavlik gave you a shot at the title Martinez you owe him. Pavlik had no problem giving Taylor a rematch at 164 which was what Taylor demanded. Plus the guy thinks he has style but looks like sht, his hair cut is rediculous.
You must have been in bits when Martinez starting punching Pavlik in the face.

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Old 10-02-2011, 09:54 PM   #36
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You must have been in bits when Martinez starting punching Pavlik in the face.



"Don't hurt him! He gave you a title shot!"

Thats not what bothers me, its that Pavlik gave Martinez a pay day and he did not need to. Pavlik did Martinez a favor by giving Martinez a shot and Martinez won't even move up 4 pounds to face a non weight drained Pavlik for the rematch.
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Old 10-02-2011, 10:04 PM   #37
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Thats not what bothers me, its that Pavlik gave Martinez a pay day and he did not need to. Pavlik did Martinez a favor by giving Martinez a shot and Martinez won't even move up 4 pounds to face a non weight drained Pavlik for the rematch.
He beat Kelly Pavlik conclusively. Why would there be a rematch? "Thanks for the pay day mate. I'll give you a return bout." That's not quite how it works, Red.
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Old 10-02-2011, 10:24 PM   #38
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I wanted to jump into the TV and tell them all to shut the **** up.

Was anyone else surprised to hear how they basically all shit on Sergio Martinez last night? It actully went beyond that, it was as if none of them even rate him as a top fighter. Im talking about the studio guys particularly Nelson and woodhall. They mocked his rating as a P4P man by saying things like 'no way is he one of the P4P best' and 'hes extremly beatable' 'he is nowhere near pac and mayweathers level' 'a few fighters will fancy their chances seeing this' 'he is completely overated'.

They seemed to talk down his wins over Pavlik and Williams as if they were just average wins. Fair enough it was quite a shitty performance by Martinez who clearly didnt take this seriously but jesus christ shouldnt these SKY pundits know a bit better? Sometimes a fighter has an off day and Barker did well. But these ****wits went on like they just dont rate him at all.
His wins against Williams and Pavlik were great but two big wins all alone shouldn't charge someone high up to #3 so quick.
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Old 10-02-2011, 10:26 PM   #39
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Thats not what bothers me, its that Pavlik gave Martinez a pay day and he did not need to. Pavlik did Martinez a favor by giving Martinez a shot and Martinez won't even move up 4 pounds to face a non weight drained Pavlik for the rematch.
Yes he needed to give him a title shot. Pavlik was supposed to fight Williams who lost to Martinez, that fight was called off so the best replacement was Martinez. Pavlik didn't exactly have a lot of options to choose from so he needed Martinez as much as Martinez needed him.
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Old 10-02-2011, 10:43 PM   #40
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Yes he needed to give him a title shot. Pavlik was supposed to fight Williams who lost to Martinez, that fight was called off so the best replacement was Martinez. Pavlik didn't exactly have a lot of options to choose from so he needed Martinez as much as Martinez needed him.
Anyone should feel privileged to get a shot at the middle weight title espesially if they have hardly fought at middle weight. Martinez should have given Pavlik the rematch at 164. After all Pavlik did the same thing for Taylor.
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Old 10-02-2011, 10:52 PM   #41
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your a moron, boxing is about actually hitting your opponent not his gloves, by your def winky wright was crap too... your dumb go learn about boxing in a gym... Barker actually gave him a clinic and exposed him till rnd 8 ...
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How does a "nobody" getting KTFO fit in with that strategy?

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let me guess you scored it like lederman....
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Old 10-02-2011, 10:53 PM   #42
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He beat Kelly Pavlik conclusively. Why would there be a rematch? "Thanks for the pay day mate. I'll give you a return bout." That's not quite how it works, Red.
Pavlik did a rematch for Jermain Taylor at 164 even though he kocked him out. Pavlik did not take for granted the shot Taylor gave him. Maybe thats how they do things in Argentina though.
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I take that Sky was just trying to rationalize another UK fighter getting his ass kicked.
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I think they was pretty spot on!
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Old 10-02-2011, 11:00 PM   #45
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There are many things I don't like about him. But one thing that gets me is Pavlik gave Martinez a shot at the title. Martinez makes the slitting the throat gesture at the weight in, I don't like that. And when Pavlik is bleeding profusely Martinez starts show boating, I dont like that either. And then to top it all off Martinez does not give Pavlik a rematch at 164. Pavlik gave you a shot at the title Martinez you owe him. Pavlik had no problem giving Taylor a rematch at 164 which was what Taylor demanded.

Plus the guy thinks he has style but looks like sht, his hair cut is rediculous. He also compleatly butchers the slick style of boxing also imo.
so pav gave a 154 pound guy a shot at 160....now hes suppose to give the 160 pound pav a shot but let him come in at super middleweight this time...after having his very first middleweight fight...? come onnnnn mannnnnnn
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