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Old 10-02-2011, 11:07 PM   #46
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so pav gave a 154 pound guy a shot at 160....now hes suppose to give the 160 pound pav a shot but let him come in at super middleweight this time...after having his very first middleweight fight...? come onnnnn mannnnnnn
Pavlik was in no kind of shape to fight that night but he did. Pavlik probably knew there was a good chance he could lose when he was in rehab during training camp but he took the fight on. All he asked was the rematch be at 164 pounds so he would not be weight drained. Its plain as day to me that Martinez screwed Pavlik.
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Old 10-02-2011, 11:25 PM   #47
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The commentary team did not hide their rooting interest at all. They were openly saying things like "we hope Martinez did not take this fight seriously so perhaps he will fade down the stretch." I forget the main commentator's name, but he was openly mocking Martinez's hands-down boxing and said that he was making a fool of himself.

If anyone has ever seen Martinez fight, he fights with his hands low all the time and it's not something new he did to show up Barker.

I usually find Sky to be pretty respectful of both British and non-British fighters, but their coverage of the fight was pretty disgraceful. Mocking a champion round after round and only giving credit to Barker even after the knockout.
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Old 10-03-2011, 12:14 AM   #48
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The guy landed a LUCKY PUCNCH and all of sudden he's NO.3 P4P.... the guy is overrated.

****ing *****. lets see if he has balls to fight the super 6 fighters.
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Old 10-03-2011, 12:26 AM   #49
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Carl Froch has had a better line up of wins but he was nowhere near most p4p top 5 list.

Donaire definitely has better boxing skills compared to Martinez and he was landing planned and deliberate punches not lucky-hail mary-head looking at the side-punches lmao
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Old 10-03-2011, 12:33 AM   #50
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The guy landed a LUCKY PUCNCH and all of sudden he's NO.3 P4P.... the guy is overrated.

****ing *****. lets see if he has balls to fight the super 6 fighters.

His career has mostly been at 147 and 154. Add to this that he started boxing very late. He's now at 160, at 36 years old. That's probably as high as he should go.

He'll probably fight any of the super six fighters.

At 160.
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Old 10-03-2011, 12:39 AM   #51
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The guy landed a LUCKY PUCNCH and all of sudden he's NO.3 P4P.... the guy is overrated.

****ing *****. lets see if he has balls to fight the super 6 fighters.
Do you think he'll land that lucky shot in a 3rd fight?

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Carl Froch has had a better line up of wins but he was nowhere near most p4p top 5 list.

Donaire definitely has better boxing skills compared to Martinez and he was landing planned and deliberate punches not lucky-hail mary-head looking at the side-punches lmao
but Froch lost to Kessler and has a controversial win over Dirrell where most think Dirrell won
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Old 10-03-2011, 01:16 AM   #52
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Where did these Sergio haters come from? One off day everyone jumps on him
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Old 10-03-2011, 01:38 AM   #53
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Pavlik was in no kind of shape to fight that night but he did. Pavlik probably knew there was a good chance he could lose when he was in rehab during training camp but he took the fight on. All he asked was the rematch be at 164 pounds so he would not be weight drained. Its plain as day to me that Martinez screwed Pavlik.
Pavlik screwed himself by inserting a rematch clause at a weight he apparently couldn't make. If fighting above the middleweight limit was so important to him, maybe he should have demanded a rematch at that weight during the initial negotiation, when he actually had all of the leverage.
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Old 10-03-2011, 01:50 AM   #54
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Sergio was up against a guy who had the ear muffs on the entire fight. Adjusted, broke him down and stopped him. I dont see the problem. He'd KO Pirog, Sturm or Geale the same way.
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Old 10-03-2011, 01:52 AM   #55
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Sky was biased as Hell!
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Old 10-03-2011, 02:01 AM   #56
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Pavlik was in no kind of shape to fight that night but he did. Pavlik probably knew there was a good chance he could lose when he was in rehab during training camp but he took the fight on. All he asked was the rematch be at 164 pounds so he would not be weight drained. Its plain as day to me that Martinez screwed Pavlik.
You have to be taking the piss, or else you are a bumlicking idiot.

Take your pick.
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Old 10-03-2011, 02:03 AM   #57
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It was horrifying.

"Sergio Martinez had a really bad 09. He drew with Cintron and lost to Williams."
I guess those ones didn't get aired over there on Sky, then?
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Old 10-03-2011, 02:08 AM   #58
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Where did these Sergio haters come from? One off day everyone jumps on him
That's how I see it.

Every fighter has an off day, or an opponent that they maybe don't prepare fully for or take serious. It's quite possible Martinez boxed to the level of his opponent, people need to give him some slack and see what happens next.
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Old 10-03-2011, 03:49 AM   #59
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Anyone should feel privileged to get a shot at the middle weight title espesially if they have hardly fought at middle weight. Martinez should have given Pavlik the rematch at 164. After all Pavlik did the same thing for Taylor.
It was widely reported Pavlik was offered a rematch but didn't take up the offer (weight issues, out of ring problems and also the fact style wise, SM is all wrong for him).

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Old 10-03-2011, 04:51 AM   #60
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Actually, I don't think the Sky team were that off the ball. They were mocking his hands-down style because, quite simply, it was pretty ineffective on the night. He wasn’t drawing Barker into counter, and he wasn’t moving his head when Barker threw. They were just giving a brutal, but honest, assessment of him. And they were very right when they said he shouldn’t be mentioned on the same level as Pac and May, pound-for-pound wise.
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