Sky's mocking of Martinez P4P status - Page 4

Big Red · 10-02-2011, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by iceman71

so pav gave a 154 pound guy a shot at 160....now hes suppose to give the 160 pound pav a shot but let him come in at super middleweight this time...after having his very first middleweight fight...? come onnnnn mannnnnnn

Pavlik was in no kind of shape to fight that night but he did. Pavlik probably knew there was a good chance he could lose when he was in rehab during training camp but he took the fight on. All he asked was the rematch be at 164 pounds so he would not be weight drained. Its plain as day to me that Martinez screwed Pavlik.

AceNguyen · 10-02-2011, 11:25 PM

The commentary team did not hide their rooting interest at all. They were openly saying things like "we hope Martinez did not take this fight seriously so perhaps he will fade down the stretch." I forget the main commentator's name, but he was openly mocking Martinez's hands-down boxing and said that he was making a fool of himself.

If anyone has ever seen Martinez fight, he fights with his hands low all the time and it's not something new he did to show up Barker.

I usually find Sky to be pretty respectful of both British and non-British fighters, but their coverage of the fight was pretty disgraceful. Mocking a champion round after round and only giving credit to Barker even after the knockout.

yingyang · 10-03-2011, 12:14 AM

The guy landed a LUCKY PUCNCH and all of sudden he's NO.3 P4P.... the guy is overrated.

fucking pussy. lets see if he has balls to fight the super 6 fighters.

el mosquito · 10-03-2011, 12:26 AM

Carl Froch has had a better line up of wins but he was nowhere near most p4p top 5 list.

Donaire definitely has better boxing skills compared to Martinez and he was landing planned and deliberate punches not lucky-hail mary-head looking at the side-punches lmao

cuchulain · 10-03-2011, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by yingyang

The guy landed a LUCKY PUCNCH and all of sudden he's NO.3 P4P.... the guy is overrated.

fucking pussy. lets see if he has balls to fight the super 6 fighters.

His career has mostly been at 147 and 154. Add to this that he started boxing very late. He's now at 160, at 36 years old. That's probably as high as he should go.

He'll probably fight any of the super six fighters.

At 160.

bballchump11 · 10-03-2011, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by yingyang

The guy landed a LUCKY PUCNCH and all of sudden he's NO.3 P4P.... the guy is overrated.

fucking pussy. lets see if he has balls to fight the super 6 fighters.

Do you think he'll land that lucky shot in a 3rd fight?

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Originally Posted by el mosquito

Carl Froch has had a better line up of wins but he was nowhere near most p4p top 5 list.

Donaire definitely has better boxing skills compared to Martinez and he was landing planned and deliberate punches not lucky-hail mary-head looking at the side-punches lmao

but Froch lost to Kessler and has a controversial win over Dirrell where most think Dirrell won
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megavolt · 10-03-2011, 01:16 AM

Where did these Sergio haters come from? One off day everyone jumps on him

purephase · 10-03-2011, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Red

Pavlik was in no kind of shape to fight that night but he did. Pavlik probably knew there was a good chance he could lose when he was in rehab during training camp but he took the fight on. All he asked was the rematch be at 164 pounds so he would not be weight drained. Its plain as day to me that Martinez screwed Pavlik.

Pavlik screwed himself by inserting a rematch clause at a weight he apparently couldn't make. If fighting above the middleweight limit was so important to him, maybe he should have demanded a rematch at that weight during the initial negotiation, when he actually had all of the leverage.

MichiganWarrior · 10-03-2011, 01:50 AM

Sergio was up against a guy who had the ear muffs on the entire fight. Adjusted, broke him down and stopped him. I dont see the problem. He'd KO Pirog, Sturm or Geale the same way.

Farmboxer · 10-03-2011, 01:52 AM

Sky was biased as Hell!

GlassJawsExist · 10-03-2011, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Red

Pavlik was in no kind of shape to fight that night but he did. Pavlik probably knew there was a good chance he could lose when he was in rehab during training camp but he took the fight on. All he asked was the rematch be at 164 pounds so he would not be weight drained. Its plain as day to me that Martinez screwed Pavlik.

You have to be taking the piss, or else you are a bumlicking idiot.

Take your pick.

IntentionalButt · 10-03-2011, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Addie

It was horrifying.

"Sergio Martinez had a really bad 09. He drew with Cintron and lost to Williams."

I guess those ones didn't get aired over there on Sky, then?

BoxingFanNo1 · 10-03-2011, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by megavolt

Where did these Sergio haters come from? One off day everyone jumps on him

That's how I see it.

Every fighter has an off day, or an opponent that they maybe don't prepare fully for or take serious. It's quite possible Martinez boxed to the level of his opponent, people need to give him some slack and see what happens next.

elninochino · 10-03-2011, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Red

Anyone should feel privileged to get a shot at the middle weight title espesially if they have hardly fought at middle weight. Martinez should have given Pavlik the rematch at 164. After all Pavlik did the same thing for Taylor.

It was widely reported Pavlik was offered a rematch but didn't take up the offer (weight issues, out of ring problems and also the fact style wise, SM is all wrong for him).

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Uncle Rico · 10-03-2011, 04:51 AM

Actually, I don't think the Sky team were that off the ball. They were mocking his hands-down style because, quite simply, it was pretty ineffective on the night. He wasn’t drawing Barker into counter, and he wasn’t moving his head when Barker threw. They were just giving a brutal, but honest, assessment of him. And they were very right when they said he shouldn’t be mentioned on the same level as Pac and May, pound-for-pound wise.

10-02-2011, 11:25 PM	#47
AceNguyen Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,069 vCash: 1000	Re: Sky's mocking of Martinez P4P status The commentary team did not hide their rooting interest at all. They were openly saying things like "we hope Martinez did not take this fight seriously so perhaps he will fade down the stretch." I forget the main commentator's name, but he was openly mocking Martinez's hands-down boxing and said that he was making a fool of himself. If anyone has ever seen Martinez fight, he fights with his hands low all the time and it's not something new he did to show up Barker. I usually find Sky to be pretty respectful of both British and non-British fighters, but their coverage of the fight was pretty disgraceful. Mocking a champion round after round and only giving credit to Barker even after the knockout.
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10-03-2011, 12:14 AM	#48
yingyang Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,764 vCash: 500	Re: Sky's mocking of Martinez P4P status The guy landed a LUCKY PUCNCH and all of sudden he's NO.3 P4P.... the guy is overrated. fucking pussy. lets see if he has balls to fight the super 6 fighters.
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10-03-2011, 12:26 AM	#49
el mosquito Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,361 vCash: 112	Re: Sky's mocking of Martinez P4P status Carl Froch has had a better line up of wins but he was nowhere near most p4p top 5 list. Donaire definitely has better boxing skills compared to Martinez and he was landing planned and deliberate punches not lucky-hail mary-head looking at the side-punches lmao
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10-03-2011, 01:16 AM	#52
megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing East Side Guru Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 6,989 vCash: 75	Re: Sky's mocking of Martinez P4P status Where did these Sergio haters come from? One off day everyone jumps on him
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10-03-2011, 01:50 AM	#54
MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! East Side VIP Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: G Rap Posts: 18,059 vCash: 541	Re: Sky's mocking of Martinez P4P status Sergio was up against a guy who had the ear muffs on the entire fight. Adjusted, broke him down and stopped him. I dont see the problem. He'd KO Pirog, Sturm or Geale the same way.
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10-03-2011, 01:52 AM	#55
Farmboxer ESB Junkie East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: USA Posts: 37,697 vCash: 1000	Re: Sky's mocking of Martinez P4P status Sky was biased as Hell!
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10-03-2011, 04:51 AM	#60
Uncle Rico P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 24,573 vCash: 75	Re: Sky's mocking of Martinez P4P status Actually, I don't think the Sky team were that off the ball. They were mocking his hands-down style because, quite simply, it was pretty ineffective on the night. He wasn’t drawing Barker into counter, and he wasn’t moving his head when Barker threw. They were just giving a brutal, but honest, assessment of him. And they were very right when they said he shouldn’t be mentioned on the same level as Pac and May, pound-for-pound wise.
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