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Old 10-04-2011, 06:41 AM   #31
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Come on... Let's say he beats Lebedev (wich I don't believe) it would be his biggest win in many years, but it's a non title Cruiserweight bout.
Toney still won't be in HW contender status after that, so he has to beat another opponent first and with Toney's current activity it means the fight would happen no earlier as the end of 2012 (with James being 44 by then).
Toney would certainly get top-15 HW rating for some organizations, if he beats top-3 cruiserweight in the world and moves back up to HW.
So he wouldnt need to have an another match before the title shot.

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The only reason Toney could hang in there with sub top Heavies until now is his technical ability, experience and incredible chin.
That's also probably the reason why people here see him beat a crude puncher like Lebedev, walking trough a couple of big shots that drop most guys from that weight and edging out a decision. Wich might be true, but now imagine him taking that shots from Wlad for 9 or 10 rounds. The man can't put together even one clear sentence now, what would such an onslaught do to the guy?
Wlad wouldn’t be able to hit him with his power punches cleanly and would be very cautious when he would fight counter puncher of Toneys caliber.
Toney would at least make it a closer fight, than most of the Wlads opponents could.

Of course fighting Povetkin for the title first would be better idea in my mind, than going straight to Wlad after Lebedev.
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Old 10-04-2011, 06:45 AM   #32
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[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] Elie Seckback beat the dogbreaks out of toney...toney has fundamentals and expireince but u cant use that old dusty ass shoulder roll with them aged azz reflexes...fukouttahere
Learn to understand boxing. Toney is cruising and having fun with a noobie in the gym and Seckback is finding it impossible to connect Toney.
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Old 10-04-2011, 07:11 AM   #33
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Toney will destroy Lebedev and take out Povetkin early next year.
I'd actually look forward to these fights. The showdown between Toney and Atlas would be epic
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Old 10-04-2011, 07:27 AM   #34
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[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] Elie Seckback beat the dogbreaks out of toney...toney has fundamentals and expireince but u cant use that old dusty ass shoulder roll with them aged azz reflexes...fukouttahere
are you retarded or just trolling? That fight wasn't even real. It was Toney being nice to the ****ing retard.
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Old 10-04-2011, 07:34 AM   #35
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I'd actually look forward to these fights. The showdown between Toney and Atlas would be epic
I think Atlas would go berserk and attack Toney
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Old 10-04-2011, 07:45 AM   #36
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I doubt the build up would be fun, Toney just talks a lot of shit, not entertaining anymore..

Fight would be a boring jab-fest
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Old 10-04-2011, 09:04 AM   #37
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Toney will beat Lebedev, because Lebedev sucks. (Assuming he isn't weight drained)
If he fights Klitschko, (either of them) he gets a paycheck to retire on and get's half his remaining brain cells knocked out of his head.

How on earth can a 5'9 man be "weight drained" at 200 lbs????
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Old 10-04-2011, 09:11 AM   #38
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I think James Toney should take on the English language. This is clearly his most difficult opponent
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Old 10-04-2011, 09:18 AM   #39
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Really?

Lebdeev is gonna kick his ass i bet, hes not the typical bum Toneys been fed since Peter took him to school

Ruiz at hwt has been crap and i dont understand why he ever got world title shots he has one win Holyfield and thats it

Wlad would hurt him but id like that after all of his annoying trash talk but id rather him get pounded by Lebdeev or try UFC again so we get to see his fat ass tap like a bitch
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Old 10-04-2011, 01:03 PM   #40
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Learn to understand boxing. Toney is cruising and having fun with a noobie in the gym and Seckback is finding it impossible to connect Toney.
James toney got beat up by Elie seckback...if thats how I feel, then thats how I feel!
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Old 10-04-2011, 02:17 PM   #41
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James toney got beat up by Elie seckback...if thats how I feel, then thats how I feel!
Yeah. Well it dosent make you any less of a retard
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Old 10-06-2011, 04:01 PM   #42
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lets see how Toney looks in his next fight. An impressive win will go a long way toward getting him the fight he wants at HW
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Old 10-06-2011, 04:07 PM   #43
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He'll duck Toney
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Old 10-06-2011, 04:43 PM   #44
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Toney beats Lebedev easily. His best shot at a (just about) legitimate belt up at HW is to fight Povetkin. I'm a Toney fan but all his talk of wanting to face the "Bitchko sisters" is just that: talk. In terms of size JT will simply be outgunned by either of them and he knows it. There is no way at this stage of his career he has the speed and reflexes to negate the massive height and reach advantage they have over him, he has no intention of ever fighting the K Bros...
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Old 10-09-2011, 04:10 AM   #45
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Toney is going to get KO'ed brutally by Lebedev. Both K bros would put this racist in a casket.
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