Bute:People will judge after the Johnson fight if I’m a top super middleweight or not - Page 3

Robney · 10-07-2011, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeAverage

Not really because Froch had to travel halæfway across the world to fight Johnson.

While Bute's task is very different as he hosts Johnson at home.

I have to agree with this. If it's even remotely close, Froch did a better job.
But if Lucian dominates or stops Johnson (who always fights away from home) he did better as anyone else.

Badlok · 10-07-2011, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BeastsideBoxing

So Froch was afected about the timezone, That why he underperform.

I can understand people saying Bute can't be rank as an elite fighter because he didn't face a top 3 yet but this said Bute his the most popular B level fighter in the world just by numbers of threads on him , and most of the threads are start by haters

laffie · 10-07-2011, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeAverage

Not really because Froch had to travel halæfway across the world to fight Johnson.

While Bute's task is very different as he hosts Johnson at home.

You're exagerating a bit here. When you train in Europe, the jetlag you have when coming in North America is not se bad. When Froch trained at 4pm en Notingham, it became 10pm in Atlantic city... the time he fought against Johnson. The other way around is tougher to adapt.

JoeAverage · 10-07-2011, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BeastsideBoxing

So Froch was afected about the timezone, That why he underperform.

What you arer saying is "hehehehe.. os you think it matter whether a fighter has hometown advantage (like Bute will) or not (like Froch)"... right?

to put it short... you are extremely naiive if you dont think it has a huge impact. Every single fight in the S6 has been won by the hometown fighter....

Badlok · 10-07-2011, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeAverage

What you arer saying is "hehehehe.. os you think it matter whether a fighter has hometown advantage (like Bute will) or not (like Froch)"... right?

to put it short... you are extremely naiive if you dont think it has a huge impact. Every single fight in the S6 has been won by the hometown fighter....

And the Jonhson - Froch fight was in neutral territory so the fight was fair and the decision must be too

MJK · 10-07-2011, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Robney

He's partly right.

The doubting boxingfans will have an answer.
The ones that already rate him will claim they're right all along or be devastated.
The haters will keep hating and say he beat a over the hill fighter wich proves nothing, or jerk off when he loses.

Your probably right.

JoeAverage · 10-07-2011, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Badlok

And the Jonhson - Froch fight was in neutral territory so the fight was fair and the decision must be too

Bute will have howe town advantage - Froch did not.

MJK · 10-07-2011, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeAverage

Ahhh... it is an acceptable fight, BUT we won't get ANY answers we don't already know.

Just look at the odds.. EVERYONE knows Bute will beat Johnson (who has a miserable track record at SMW).

It is an acceptable passing time fight but it is not a top fight. Johnson is not a top top fighter at SMW and therefore this wont tell us anything new.

Since the S6 is so highly rated, I think they disagree with you on this.

Froch and Kessler had good resume and were among the best.

Direll and Ward were in the beginning not more than prospect.

Abraham and Taylor SMW resume was void.

Then they used Johnson and Alan Green. Johnson went to the semi-final and much people said it was a good win for Froch...

I'm not saying Johnson is Tha man, but dont try to downgrade it either.

BeastsideBoxing · 10-07-2011, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeAverage

Bute will have howe town advantage - Froch did not.

So if Froch fights Bute... who has HOWE town advandage wins bacause howe town advantage means everything in a fight.

JoeAverage · 10-07-2011, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MJK

Since the S6 is so highly rated, I think they disagree with you on this.

Froch and Kessler had good resume and were among the best.

Direll and Ward were in the beginning not more than prospect.

Abraham and Taylor SMW resume was void.

Then they used Johnson and Alan Green. Johnson went to the semi-final and much people said it was a good win for Froch...

I'm not saying Johnson is Tha man, but dont try to downgrade it either.

Anyone who knows just a little about HOW Johnson happened to end up in the semifinal... haaahahahahaha ... gives zero for that.

He has not beaten A SINGLE of the real S6 fighters.

and I think you know that.

MJK · 10-07-2011, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeAverage

What you arer saying is "hehehehe.. os you think it matter whether a fighter has hometown advantage (like Bute will) or not (like Froch)"... right?

to put it short... you are extremely naiive if you dont think it has a huge impact. Every single fight in the S6 has been won by the hometown fighter....

Froch won against Johnson and Abraham and it was away fights. But I agree that hometown advantage is an advantage

MJK · 10-07-2011, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeAverage

Anyone who knows just a little about HOW Johnson happened to end up in the semifinal... haaahahahahaha ... gives zero for that.

He has not beaten A SINGLE of the real S6 fighters.

and I think you know that.

Ok I'll re-do:
Ward was considered a green but talented prospect.

He won against the best SMW of the time in Kessler.

So even if you dont have the best resume out there, or even if you are the underdog dont means that the fight is an easy one.

BatTheMan · 10-07-2011, 08:25 AM

When judging the outcome of Bute's fight with Johnson, we must all remember that prime Johnson was outclassed by Sven Ottke.

Just to put things into perspective.

MJK · 10-07-2011, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BatTheMan

When judging the outcome of Bute's fight with Johnson, we must all remember that prime Johnson was outclassed by Sven Ottke.

Just to put things into perspective.

It's so much more complicated than that. His career is so long that saying that we can say its not a great win. But I will say this: he did win against RJJ one of the best SMW of all time...

BatTheMan · 10-07-2011, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MJK

It's so much more complicated than that. His career is so long that saying that we can say its not a great win. But I will say this: he did win against RJJ one of the best SMW of all time...

Ottke is an ATG.

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