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Old 10-09-2011, 01:47 PM   #31
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Old 10-09-2011, 01:49 PM   #32
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Old 10-11-2011, 04:33 AM   #33
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What are you talking about? Cubas style of outside stick and move boxing isn't that effective anymore, that's what you're really upset about.
Did you just see the Ukranian middleweight in the semi-final? He knocked his Romanian opponent out, his Romanian opponent who beat the Cuban middleweight earlier and gave him a standing eight count.
Did you see the Ukranian heavyweight Usyk? Great lateral movement, great footwork, very busy and very slippery while staying on the inside. Especially for a guy his size.
Have you seen the Ukranian Lomachenko? Arguably pound for the pound the best amateur in the world.
Ukranian boxers rightfully deserve to be at the top of the amateur boxing list. Ukraine and Russia seem to be the powerhouses of boxing at the moment, followed by Kazakhstan,England, Ireland and Cuba.
The list reflects that, apart from an underachieving Irish squad and the Brazil team doing better than expected.
The reason why Ukraine and Russia are at the top is that they treat the amateur game with respect, they train hard, they train to punch hard, they focus on technique, they have very tough competition just to reach the top of their national comps and then they want to do well for their country. USA haven't been a force in amateur boxing for a long time and Cuba are on a downward slide. Slickness and stylish boxing isn't working so well now, strength and inside fighting is starting to be what amateur boxing is about. For the better imo, that style combined with the headguards coming off after the next olympics should get every fight fan excited about amateur boxing again.
All those boxers you mention were given gift desitions at one time or another , they're crap , the only good ones were Lomachenko and Khytrov , the rest were shit but the Klitschkos sisters money made sure they won . See you in London . Peace .
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Ukraine 5 in semifinals
Kazakstan 4
Russland 3
Cuba 3
England 3
Azerbadjan 2
Italia 2
Brasil 2
Kina 2
Uzbekistan 2
Wales 1
Mongolia 1
Tyskland 1
Litauen1
Tadjikstan 1
India 1
Japan1
Romania 1
Belarus 1
Irland 1
Sørkorea 1
USA 1
Maybe, this is only 1 event where the juding was not always sound. I still can not beleive the USA only won one bronze.
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Old 10-11-2011, 05:47 AM   #35
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It appears that Eastern Euro nations can now medal or win at fly, bantam, or light weight. The below link offers full results. Just click on the weight divisions to the right.

[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_World_Amateur_Boxing_Championships[/ame]
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Old 10-11-2011, 03:17 PM   #36
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well russia was the top country last time in 2009
this time its ukraine

but yeah european countries are in general good form

but its the former ussr, that is cleaning everything up lol

ps europe east or west is from portugal to poland...
and from those england seemed to the best
this time not poland etc
the russian speaking countries are a bit different
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Old 10-11-2011, 03:20 PM   #37
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i dont just mean that culturally europe both and east and west are different then
former ussr

but also boxing wise too

i have trained with russian and romanian coaches

huge difference in techique and ways of boxing in general....
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Old 10-12-2011, 12:21 AM   #38
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The US has never been that great at amateur boxing. Especially not recently.
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