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Old 10-12-2011, 07:01 PM   #16
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Juanmas also a cheato
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Old 10-12-2011, 07:04 PM   #17
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Another failed attempt at making margarito look innocent.
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Old 10-12-2011, 07:15 PM   #18
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Another failed attempt at making margarito look innocent.
Who said anything about Tony being innocent?
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Old 10-12-2011, 07:24 PM   #19
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Who said anything about Tony being innocent?
You're trying to take some heat off of Tony's situation with the ad hominem about Tito.

Fact is...Tito's wraps are legal pretty much anywhere but selected states. New York being one of them. Tony's stuff isn't accepted ANYWHERE!

Tito does it. Juanma does it. **** Kessler had the same problem before his fight with Ward. Loads of fighters wrap their hands in suspect manners that bend the rules a bit. DeLaHoya wrapped gauze in between his knuckles until Freddie complained about it, then Robert Garcia complained about the same exact wrapping when Margo when up against Pacman.

Point being...Tito, Kessler, DLH, Pacquiao, Juanma...all used gauze and tape. Margarito didn't. That's why there's so much heat.


Bradley and Clottey are known for headbutts...Ortiz headbutted Mayweather deliberately...are we going to say "Yea Ortiz received a lot of criticism about the headbutt, but what about Timmy Bradley and Josh Clottey??" Gimme a break dude.
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Old 10-12-2011, 08:17 PM   #20
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A lot of Mexicans have alternative ways of having their hands wrapped. When you fight out of Mexico and other places without commissions and far more relaxed atmospheres, its not a big reach to imagine trainers wrapping fighters hands incorrectly. Compared to the norm of the game anyway.

Roach called out Barrera on it

Margarito and Trinidad were "caught" by Nazim

There's been allegations of JCC having wraps that caused a lot of damage on opponents

Other fighters who've been called out on... Kessler and Juan Manuel Lopez

Boxing fans are a bunch of dense ****s with selective, if not short term memories. Favoritism completely erases the guilt of some fighters while others are crucified mercilessly.
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Old 10-12-2011, 08:31 PM   #21
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What you trying to say that Trinidad really cheated but Margarito didnt?

It was old pad with white substance on it.

No one can ever explain the white substance.
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Old 10-12-2011, 08:57 PM   #22
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Anyone who watched the first Cotto v Margarito saw what a plaster wrap can do when it hardens.

Way different than Tito. Both illegal, one being like a felony, the other a misdemeanor. Not, comparable at all.
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Old 10-12-2011, 09:00 PM   #23
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Anyone who watched the first Cotto v Margarito saw what a plaster wrap can do when it hardens.

Way different than Tito. Both illegal, one being like a felony, the other a misdemeanor. Not, comparable at all.
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Old 10-12-2011, 09:39 PM   #24
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Ypu can learn from multiple trainers what was up with Trinidad's wraps in this link: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Everybody who wants to discredit Trinidad brings up the wraps controversy, but few really cared what really happened, and others flat out ignore it just so they can keep calling him "cheato". Basically you chose your side, it is not rare for biased fanatics of certain fighters to use Trinidad's controversy to soften up Margarito's case with his wraps also.
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Old 10-12-2011, 09:44 PM   #25
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You're trying to take some heat off of Tony's situation with the ad hominem about Tito.

Fact is...Tito's wraps are legal pretty much anywhere but selected states. New York being one of them. Tony's stuff isn't accepted ANYWHERE!

Tito does it. Juanma does it. **** Kessler had the same problem before his fight with Ward. Loads of fighters wrap their hands in suspect manners that bend the rules a bit. DeLaHoya wrapped gauze in between his knuckles until Freddie complained about it, then Robert Garcia complained about the same exact wrapping when Margo when up against Pacman.

Point being...Tito, Kessler, DLH, Pacquiao, Juanma...all used gauze and tape. Margarito didn't. That's why there's so much heat.
Thank You! I've noted this (the fact that Tito's wraps were LEGAL almost anywhere else) everytime the subject comes up here... Most ppl over here already know the facts, they are just haters!....... Just ask their burrito leader, right Freddie???? Freddie is a well known hater of puertoricans........After all, not only Tito beat his cute, fishnet wearing idol, but then he went to marry a puertorican girl, ANNNNDDDDDDD to top that off, yeppp, among all places he could've moved in the whole world, guess what??? Yeppp again, he moved TWO OR THREE houses next to Trinidad!!!! WAY TO OWN SOMEBODY, TRINIDAD!!! Rumor is DLH used to stroll in full drag queen clothes in front of Tito's house when having a couple o' drinks.. (looking 4 another, more convincing beating). Love u Freddie!!
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Thank You! I've noted this (the fact that Tito's wraps were LEGAL almost anywhere else) everytime the subject comes up here... Most ppl over here already know the facts, they are just haters!....... Just ask their burrito leader, right Freddie???? Freddie is a well known hater of puertoricans........After all, not only Tito beat his cute, fishnet wearing idol, but then he went to marry a puertorican girl, ANNNNDDDDDDD to top that off, yeppp, among all places he could've moved in the whole world, guess what??? Yeppp again, he moved TWO OR THREE houses next to Trinidad!!!! WAY TO OWN SOMEBODY, TRINIDAD!!! Rumor is DLH used to stroll in full drag queen clothes in front of Tito's house when having a couple o' drinks.. (looking 4 another, more convincing beating). Love u Freddie!!
Tito would overwrap his hands and dipp them in hardening water solution to make them hard.

Tito had fake power.

As an amateur, Tito only had about 15 ko's in 80 some fights.
Then he turns pro, loads his wraps, and cheats his way, until Hopkins's team caught him and made him re-wrap.

Tito was a cheater most of his career, and got a "free pass" cause the NY commission let him wrap illegally.

Margarito never cheated.
Margarito tried to use plaster inserts against the steroid cheating-Mosley, cause Mosley was on EPO, HGH, clear cream, Steroids and other PED's.
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Ypu can learn from multiple trainers what was up with Trinidad's wraps in this link: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Everybody who wants to discredit Trinidad brings up the wraps controversy, but few really cared what really happened, and others flat out ignore it just so they can keep calling him "cheato". Basically you chose your side, it is not rare for biased fanatics of certain fighters to use Trinidad's controversy to soften up Margarito's case with his wraps also.
Where do you live again?

Oh, it all makes sense now.
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Old 10-13-2011, 12:21 AM   #28
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Both Trinidude and Margaricheato were cheaters even though they both didn't do exactly the same thing. When Tito couldn't wrap his hands that way Hopkins knocked him out in round 11. When Margarito couldn't put that plastic hand wraps inside his gloves Mosley knocked him out in round 10. They got what they deserved.
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Old 10-13-2011, 01:17 AM   #29
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margos trainer inserted an old pad into margos knuckle pad...

trinis dad would make his fist into cast by wrapping tremendous amounts of gauze and tape gauze and tape, over and over again....said he's always done that....bouie fisher, naz richardson and bhop said that what trini would do, was like getting hit by a baseball bat....look it up, there's a good read on it online

juanma got busted for the same ****...



And you witnessed it first hand?
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Tito would overwrap his hands and dipp them in hardening water solution to make them hard.

Tito had fake power.

As an amateur, Tito only had about 15 ko's in 80 some fights.
Then he turns pro, loads his wraps, and cheats his way, until Hopkins's team caught him and made him re-wrap.

Tito was a cheater most of his career, and got a "free pass" cause the NY commission let him wrap illegally.

Margarito never cheated.
Margarito tried to use plaster inserts against the steroid cheating-Mosley,
cause Mosley was on EPO, HGH, clear cream, Steroids and other PED's.

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