Here is how a warrior fights with one arm...

Strike · 10-16-2011, 01:22 AM

Danny Williams limited as he was, fought this round with his arm hanging uselessly by his side as it came out of the shoulder (which it had done earlier in the fight) and he then wins by KO with one arm....

Hopkins rolling around on the floor with his agonising "injury" was a fucking joke. And no I don't think he was trying to get out of the fight, I think he thought he could milk several minutes to upset Dawson and get points deducted. A bit like against Calzaghe and RJJ...backfired this time so fuck him.

Arcane · 10-16-2011, 01:23 AM

Watch the Echols fight.

SRCP · 10-16-2011, 01:24 AM

BHop didn't have anything. He was fine. He quit. He's been around and knew Chad was too much.

Peppermint · 10-16-2011, 01:29 AM

Yes, Hookins showed a lot in the Echols fight years ago. Hopkins was a warrior no question. But, much like Holyfield in his fight with Williams, he is an old fighter now and ring weary. Hes 46 and hes a great athlete for 46, but hes human. I didnt buy the fight because its really just not relevant. Not any more than Toney-Lebedev really.

FLO · 10-16-2011, 01:31 AM

Maybe you idiots didn't hear when Hopkins said "yea with one arm" in reply to the referee asking him if he could continue. The ref probably thought he was being sarcastic and stopped it anyway.

It was only the second round in a fairly even fight. No matter what people think really happened these are only OPINIONS--biased ones at that. The fact is that he was thrown to the ground and the fight was stopped and called a TKO and that's it. To be continued.

PH|LLA · 10-16-2011, 01:31 AM

Hopkins : Obvious no-contest, easy payday, I keep my title, nothing to lose.

Hopkins is a guy who by his own admittance used to put bricks into a television box and sell it to people.

Chempasillo · 10-16-2011, 01:38 AM

I am impressed. also I never heard danny talking about how tuff he is.

Strike · 10-16-2011, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by FLO

Maybe you idiots didn't hear when Hopkins said "yea with one arm" in reply to the referee asking him if he could continue. The ref probably thought he was being sarcastic and stopped it anyway.

No I don't think Hopkins wanted the fight stopped at all, I think he wanted to fake he was in real pain to upset Dawson and to get points taken off Dawson and to get the ref on side.

Hopkins is not a coward he's just a cheat and a dirty fighter. An ATG fighter too, but always involved in ugly fights and always looking to use underhand tactics to gain an advantage.

Popshots · 10-16-2011, 02:00 AM

Hopkins is a warrior and i respect him, but he's a con man and his antics backfired on him. I'm not saying that he should have lost the title.

FLO · 10-16-2011, 02:09 AM

If it was merely "to upset Dawson and to get points taken off Dawson and to get the ref on [his] side." he wouldn't have said that he could only go on with one arm. He would have asked for 5 minutes and then got up and continued, just like he did with calzaghe and jones. That's my opinion at least.

Why was the ref so quick to call the fight off and rule it a TKO and why does every damn fight that ends controversially have to be a conspiracy?

Strike · 10-16-2011, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by FLO

If it was merely "to upset Dawson and to get points taken off Dawson and to get the ref on [his] side." he wouldn't have said that he could only go on with one arm. He would have asked for 5 minutes and then got up and continued, just like he did with calzaghe and jones. That's my opinion at least.

Why was the ref so quick to call the fight off and rule it a TKO and why does every damn fight that ends controversially have to be a conspiracy?

I don't ever buy into conspiracy theories. To me this just looked very very suspect on Hopkins part and he is a proven cheat and bullshitter. He may be injured and if so then fair enough, but it looked incredibly soft to have caused a serious injury and more to the point his reaction was definitely over the top.

It did not hurt enough to be rolling and grimacing like he was in agony. No chance. The ref fucked up for sure and I would be pissed off if I had paid for that fight.

FLO · 10-16-2011, 02:27 AM

There are some legitimate conspiracies but to call every controversial stoppage a conspiracy takes away from the real ones. It's irrational to say that "It did not hurt enough to be rolling and grimacing like he was in agony. No chance." and only because he has a history of doing this type of stuff. It might have been real this time, we don't really know.

Strike · 10-16-2011, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by FLO

There are some legitimate conspiracies but to call every controversial stoppage a conspiracy takes away from the real ones. It's irrational to say that "It did not hurt enough to be rolling and grimacing like he was in agony. No chance." and only because he has a history of doing this type of stuff. It might have been real this time, we don't really know.

As I said I never call controversial stoppages conspiracies and I'm not one for a conspiracy. But every ex pro who was commentating on the link I was watching said the same thing, it looked like bullshit. It might not be, but he looked like he was milking it. It does not hurt that much, I can see this because I've seen more than one friend have a dislocated shoulder and not make a big deal out of the pain and neither of them are as used to physical pain as Hopkins.

10-16-2011, 01:22 AM	#1
Strike Rumplestiltskin East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: South Korea via Manchester Posts: 40,852 vCash: 1667	Here is how a warrior fights with one arm... Danny Williams limited as he was, fought this round with his arm hanging uselessly by his side as it came out of the shoulder (which it had done earlier in the fight) and he then wins by KO with one arm.... Hopkins rolling around on the floor with his agonising "injury" was a fucking joke. And no I don't think he was trying to get out of the fight, I think he thought he could milk several minutes to upset Dawson and get points deducted. A bit like against Calzaghe and RJJ...backfired this time so fuck him.
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10-16-2011, 01:23 AM	#2
Arcane One More Time East Side VIP Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 15,348 vCash: 180	Re: Here is how a warrior fights with one arm... Watch the Echols fight.
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10-16-2011, 01:24 AM	#3
SRCP Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 782 vCash: 1000	Re: Here is how a warrior fights with one arm... BHop didn't have anything. He was fine. He quit. He's been around and knew Chad was too much.
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10-16-2011, 01:29 AM	#4
Peppermint Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,841 vCash: 500	Re: Here is how a warrior fights with one arm... Yes, Hookins showed a lot in the Echols fight years ago. Hopkins was a warrior no question. But, much like Holyfield in his fight with Williams, he is an old fighter now and ring weary. Hes 46 and hes a great athlete for 46, but hes human. I didnt buy the fight because its really just not relevant. Not any more than Toney-Lebedev really.
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10-16-2011, 01:31 AM	#5
FLO Journeyman Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY Posts: 89 vCash: 1000	Re: Here is how a warrior fights with one arm... Maybe you idiots didn't hear when Hopkins said "yea with one arm" in reply to the referee asking him if he could continue. The ref probably thought he was being sarcastic and stopped it anyway. It was only the second round in a fairly even fight. No matter what people think really happened these are only OPINIONS--biased ones at that. The fact is that he was thrown to the ground and the fight was stopped and called a TKO and that's it. To be continued.
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PH\|LLA ESB Junkie East Side VIP Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: YUL Posts: 46,635 vCash: 5685	Re: Here is how a warrior fights with one arm... Hopkins : Obvious no-contest, easy payday, I keep my title, nothing to lose. Hopkins is a guy who by his own admittance used to put bricks into a television box and sell it to people.
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Chempasillo Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,714 vCash: 322	Re: Here is how a warrior fights with one arm... I am impressed. also I never heard danny talking about how tuff he is.
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Popshots Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 751 vCash: 1000	Re: Here is how a warrior fights with one arm... Hopkins is a warrior and i respect him, but he's a con man and his antics backfired on him. I'm not saying that he should have lost the title.
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10-16-2011, 02:09 AM	#10
FLO Journeyman Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY Posts: 89 vCash: 1000	Re: Here is how a warrior fights with one arm... If it was merely "to upset Dawson and to get points taken off Dawson and to get the ref on [his] side." he wouldn't have said that he could only go on with one arm. He would have asked for 5 minutes and then got up and continued, just like he did with calzaghe and jones. That's my opinion at least. Why was the ref so quick to call the fight off and rule it a TKO and why does every damn fight that ends controversially have to be a conspiracy?
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10-16-2011, 02:27 AM	#12
FLO Journeyman Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY Posts: 89 vCash: 1000	Re: Here is how a warrior fights with one arm... There are some legitimate conspiracies but to call every controversial stoppage a conspiracy takes away from the real ones. It's irrational to say that "It did not hurt enough to be rolling and grimacing like he was in agony. No chance." and only because he has a history of doing this type of stuff. It might have been real this time, we don't really know.
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