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Old 10-26-2011, 09:00 AM   #31
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Eubank would give anybody problems.
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Old 10-26-2011, 09:04 AM   #32
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Hopkins vs. Allen III on De La Hoya vs. Sturm Show
Calzaghe vs. Lacy
Calzaghe vs. Kessler

Point caller?
What was the weather like in Manchester and Cardiff on those nights?
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Old 10-26-2011, 09:11 AM   #33
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In my opinion, this wouldn't be a good match up at all, Eubank would pressure Hopkins and hurt Hopkins with the heavier blows. I've never been a Hopkins fan. In my opinion he came along when the middleweight division was dead of talent, so Bernard's thing was to call out ww's De La Hoya and Trinidad and the only time he did step up to the plate and fight someone where the tangibles were a bit even he lost, once to Roy Jones and twice to Taylor.

Eubank was a animal in the ring, a bit arrogant but heck, he was tough unfortunately he fought most in England and the people in the US who weren't die hard boxing fans probably never had the chance to see what a talent he truly was in his prime.

Chris would stop Bernard in the 7th round of a fight that would see Bernard holding a awful lot and not wanting to mix it up.
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Old 10-26-2011, 09:22 AM   #34
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Do any of them beat Hopkins?

thats a tough call, if hopkins struggles with the likes of mitchell, mercado, and taylor, and pascal, if hopkins jumps feigns injury against the likes of robert allan and chad dawson, then it gives most fighters a chance with hopkins.


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Listen to yourself? Eubank’s win over an incomplete Benn is better than anything on the Hopkins resume?

its fact.

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Let me ask you, if Hagler had two razor thin losses to Jermain Taylor on his resume would you class them as losses? Don’t answer that, just look at the TWO wins he had over Vito!
if if, what if - irrelevant


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OWNED!
you've owned no one egghead, i've answered every single one of your points in this thread, and every question i have asked of you, you have ducked giving an answer

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Old 10-26-2011, 09:34 AM   #35
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Eubank was life and death with several opponents that Hopkins would have taken a shit on.

Has B-Hop ever beat a Eubank Calibre fighter his own size?

The two he fought were Roy and Joe and both bummed him.
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Old 10-26-2011, 09:34 AM   #36
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In my opinion, this wouldn't be a good match up at all, Eubank would pressure Hopkins and hurt Hopkins with the heavier blows. I've never been a Hopkins fan. In my opinion he came along when the middleweight division was dead of talent, so Bernard's thing was to call out ww's De La Hoya and Trinidad and the only time he did step up to the plate and fight someone where the tangibles were a bit even he lost, once to Roy Jones and twice to Taylor.

Eubank was a animal in the ring, a bit arrogant but heck, he was tough unfortunately he fought most in England and the people in the US who weren't die hard boxing fans probably never had the chance to see what a talent he truly was in his prime.

Chris would stop Bernard in the 7th round of a fight that would see Bernard holding a awful lot and not wanting to mix it up.
spot on about hopkins handpicking lighter fighters (bar tarver). 20 out of hopkins first 21 fights were fought in the super middleweight limit or above yet he was calling out -

a former light welterweight 140 fighter in trinidad
a former super featherweight 130 fighter in oscar
hopkins then called out a former lightweight 135 fighter in shane mosley


he did all this and then ducked a career high payday of $3m in 2002 to fight calzaghe in america

instead hopkins wanted to fight hakkar for peanuts and then carry on feasting on these little guys


very true about hopkins, he fought in the weakest middlweight era in history and everytime he fought a top challenger at a fair weight, he got his ass kicked - jones, taylor twice, calzaghe.

there is a clear blueprint how to beat hopkins and eubank would fit perfectly into that. i know hopkins has been knocked down plenty of times and feigned injury with his play acting many times, but i don't think eubank would have stopped him, i think we'd be looking at something like a 115-113 scorecard due to hopkins' spoiling and trying to make it a bitty, stop / start fight.
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Old 10-26-2011, 09:43 AM   #37
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What was the weather like in Manchester and Cardiff on those nights?


Do you want to know what the weather was like in LA for Vargas vs. Mayorga, or in Vegas for De la Hoya vs. Mayweather, Mayweather vs. Mosley or Hatton vs. Pacquiao? How about Hatton vs. Tzsyu?

This is silly shit to try with me mate. Can't remember Manchester for Lacy but Cardiff was ****IN FREEZING.

Try something else!
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Old 10-26-2011, 09:46 AM   #38
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Has B-Hop ever beat a Eubank Calibre fighter his own size?

The two he fought were Roy and Joe and both bummed him.
when has Eubank ever beat someone as good as Hopkins??
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when has Eubank ever beat someone as good as Hopkins??
Wait for it! Someone will actually say Benn and Watson!
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when has Eubank ever beat someone as good as Hopkins??
gary stretch owns hopkins!

who at mw has hopkins beaten that convinces you he could beat eubank?

whereas i can give you numerous e.g's of eubank opponents that could give hopkins fits.
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Old 10-26-2011, 10:01 AM   #41
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gary stretch owns hopkins!

who at mw has hopkins beaten that convinces you he could beat eubank?

whereas i can give you numerous e.g's of eubank opponents that could give hopkins fits.
what? why are you not answering my question Gained? answer my question.
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Old 10-26-2011, 10:03 AM   #42
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Could Eubank's unique style have given Hopkins big problems?

I was thinking about this. Eubank has a very unique style of stepping out and finding punches from angles, firing shots off and moving out of range etc Maybe this could have been the kryptonite to Hopkins tendency to come inside, throw/butt and hug.
You do realise that Hopkins didn't always 'throw/butt and hug' right?
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Old 10-26-2011, 10:04 AM   #43
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gary stretch owns hopkins!

who at mw has hopkins beaten that convinces you he could beat eubank?

whereas i can give you numerous e.g's of eubank opponents that could give hopkins fits.
No but seriously?
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Old 10-26-2011, 10:16 AM   #44
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It’s strange that you hold Hagler’s win over Hearns in such high regard when you consistently bitch about weight.

what didn't you get about what i said about why haglers victory over hearns being far superior to hopkins win over trinidad?

1) hearns is far superior head to head at 160 than trinidad
2) trinidad had already been knocked down 7 times at 140
3) hearns natural size was far more suitable to putting on weight and going up through the divisions than trinidads
4) trinidad went on to show his unsuitablity for fighting at middleweight by getting his head boxed off v winky wright
5) after hagler, hearns went on to win a middleweight title, a title at 168 and a title at 175 showing his undoubted calibre for fighting at heavier weights.
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Old 10-26-2011, 10:24 AM   #45
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Default Re: Could Eubank's unique style have given Hopkins big problems?

look at all the Calzaghe fans posting in this thread.

I remember a Calzaghe fan at another forum going around telling posters what a brutal, murderous, and epic-uberly amazing battle Eubank vs. Calzaghe was, only to be mocked later by those who've watched it at his recommendation.
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