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Old 10-27-2011, 07:57 AM   #31
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He's got excellent power, but the fighters he's came up against recently are carefully handpicked . It compliments his performances, because the Ex Champs he's beat, have taken some hellacious beatings in the past. Throw him in there with a more speedy technical boxer, and i reckon he might have some problems....
true..hed struggle with chagaev and povotkin would beat his ass..haye would make him look foolish
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Old 10-27-2011, 08:16 AM   #32
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true..hed struggle with chagaev and povotkin would beat his ass..haye would make him look foolish

Really Hope he fight Chagaev or Johnson next and then even haters believe him to be real threat to Klitschko's

Haye couldn't do nothing to Helenius in sparring..

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Old 10-27-2011, 09:17 AM   #33
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this post here is whats wrong with boxing fans...i mean if you think a fighter is exciting just because hes got a shit defence gets hit alot and cant move then i dont know what the ****s wrong with the world
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Old 10-27-2011, 11:55 AM   #34
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Really Hope he fight Chagaev or Johnson next and then even haters believe him to be real threat to Klitschko's

Haye couldn't do nothing to Helenius in sparring..
sparring??dont get me started on sparring rumurs...i hope he fights chagaev..chagaev is past it hes just not active enough and i still think hed make helenius look foolish...helenius does have the power to stop him tho should chaggy get sloppy just like sergai
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Old 10-27-2011, 12:01 PM   #35
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Rangy with good pop and a varied arsenal but his body needs to get stronger and he needs to take conditioning more seriously.
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Old 10-27-2011, 12:25 PM   #36
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sparring??dont get me started on sparring rumurs...i hope he fights chagaev..chagaev is past it hes just not active enough and i still think hed make helenius look foolish...helenius does have the power to stop him tho should chaggy get sloppy just like sergai
Helenius himself say'ed that Haye sparring goes much better than he expect and time was when he was training hardly power so he was not in the quickest mod himself
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Old 10-27-2011, 12:26 PM   #37
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he's overrated ,but has some serious KO power.
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Old 10-27-2011, 12:28 PM   #38
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he is slow, clumsy and looks out of shape. But he has KO'ed some names, so...
this...^

more the reason i'd love to see him fight Fury. that would be hysterical to watch...
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Old 10-27-2011, 12:31 PM   #39
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Can somebody please explain to me what the big deal is with this guy?

This isn't a criticism, but a genuine question, as there's always a new 'up-and-coming' challenger.. but generally fails to deliver.. especially over the past 5 years or so.

So is this guy really the real deal? and if he isn't.. who is?
He's not that great, but he's powerful, aggressive and big. He fights like a cross between Kelly Pavlik and Carl Froch, IMO, which would be fine if he was quicker, but he's really slow, awkward and robotic. Dude's there to be tagged by anyone who has handspeed though, and his footwork is dreadful. That said, he's good at mixing up his punches and works the body a lot for a guy who's 6'6".

So is he great? No. Is he probably better than 99% of the current heavyweight division? Sure. Long term, is he the best prospect out there? I doubt it. Not that any of these guys lack flaws, but I like Pulev, Fury and a few others better over the long haul. But there's little reason he can't be as good as most of the guys who were heavyweight titlists in the mid-2000's.
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Old 10-27-2011, 12:31 PM   #40
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He is a huge guy so he is not going to look that speedy and nimble. Same thing applys to most bigger fighters as you go up in weight classes the fighters in general become less agile looking with a slower tempo.
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Old 10-27-2011, 12:57 PM   #41
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He does have legit power and he is a big guy and people are obsessed with wanting to see the Klitschko's fight someone their own size although both have already done it multiple times but people ignore it and say they just win because they are bigger than everyone else
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Old 10-27-2011, 01:05 PM   #42
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exactly he takes to many punches his footwork is crap and his skill set is shite..he can bang tho..can you see him making these so called slow starts against the top men instead of these old ****ers hes been feasting on???boxing fans can be so ****ing naive sometimes its unreal..i mean if your being outboxed by an old out of shape white wolf then theres something wrong..and yes he knocked him out well..but we all seen it and know the man gassed out due to his nose being broke early on..sorry but this man needs to improve alot if he has to be considered a REAL threat


Liakhovich - 35 years old
Peter - 30
Levin - 34
Tony - 33

None of them seems to be too far away from their prime in age for a heavy weight compared to, for example:

Vitali Klitschko - 40 years old
Wladimir Klitschko - 35

Some might even say that a heavy weight quite often reaches his prime around 30-35 years old.

Robert is 27 and everyone is here saying he is still far away from his prime. Meanwhile, some clowns claim he is beating past prime old men like a 30 year old Peter. Haters are gonna hate. Robert is never going to be the most popular HW ever since he is not from a big boxing country and is not the kind of individual who would care much about acting outside the ring to boost hype about himself, but he will be notified as one of the biggest punchers in the game after his career is over. And purely based on the results and what he does in the ring, unlike the numerous guys who will be/are remembered mostly for what they did outside the ring.
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Old 10-27-2011, 01:16 PM   #43
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He's like a super sized Kelly Pavlik in that at first glance he doesn't look all that impressive, but he has some skill and he can crack.
A perfect summary. Is he going to beat the Klitschkos? Probably not, although his size will do him good the same way it did Tony Thompson.

But I think he could give Vitali a good tussle.
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Old 10-27-2011, 01:17 PM   #44
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Helenius himself say'ed that Haye sparring goes much better than he expect and time was when he was training hardly power so he was not in the quickest mod himself
well you do realise they got him in to spar not to fight??to try stuff on him ect ect ect..any fool could see haye could pot shot helenuis all night long..and his whiskers would be tested
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Old 10-27-2011, 01:24 PM   #45
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Liakhovich - 35 years old
Peter - 30
Levin - 34
Tony - 33

None of them seems to be too far away from their prime in age for a heavy weight compared to, for example:

Vitali Klitschko - 40 years old
Wladimir Klitschko - 35

Some might even say that a heavy weight quite often reaches his prime around 30-35 years old.

Robert is 27 and everyone is here saying he is still far away from his prime. Meanwhile, some clowns claim he is beating past prime old men like a 30 year old Peter. Haters are gonna hate. Robert is never going to be the most popular HW ever since he is not from a big boxing country and is not the kind of individual who would care much about acting outside the ring to boost hype about himself, but he will be notified as one of the biggest punchers in the game after his career is over. And purely based on the results and what he does in the ring, unlike the numerous guys who will be/are remembered mostly for what they did outside the ring.
jesus **** where to start...peter while not being on this planet for as long as wlad and vitali has been in 3 brutal fights with the klit brothers alone he was also slapped silly by chambers..so in that sence he was old and past it he was out of shape ect ect...the white wolf has been through some wars and hadnt fought in over a year and still boxed roberts ears off untill he gassed..brewster again has took some terrible beatings and was past it....i dont even need to talk about gregory or levin are you insane lol...bydenko is the only win i give him credit for and even that isnt all to great...
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