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Old 10-25-2011, 08:41 PM   #2191
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You sure thats Nelson?
I agree,it does not look like Nelson who had cauliflower ears,and this guy is better looking. Are you sure Rocky ?
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More large scale photos of the scene at Willard-Floyd Johnson

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Unbelievable. What could they even see in the stands miles away.
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Ernie "Indian Red" Lopez, Howie Steindler and Danny "Li'l Red" Lopez


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Mexican Pete Everett.

Below ,Joe Goddard.

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Joe Louis and Hoyt Porter..
Circa mid-1940s

Hoyt Porter, my late trainer, gave me this picture some 35 years ago
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Old 10-28-2011, 08:46 PM   #2196
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I agree,it does not look like Nelson who had cauliflower ears,and this guy is better looking. Are you sure Rocky ?
The source website had it down as Bat - but I was thinking the same to be honest - but then I know Bat had a lot of reconstructive surgery as his career went on so don't know - maybe a young Bat?? It looks like him in the eyes and general features to me but yeah my first thought was it doesn't look magled enough for Bat although could this have been before the more brutal bouts he had??
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Old 10-28-2011, 09:07 PM   #2197
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The source website had it down as Bat - but I was thinking the same to be honest - but then I know Bat had a lot of reconstructive surgery as his career went on so don't know - maybe a young Bat?? It looks like him in the eyes and general features to me but yeah my first thought was it doesn't look magled enough for Bat although could this have been before the more brutal bouts he had??
Rocky,I seriously doubt that this picture was of a young Bat who had his first bout in 1896 at the age of Fourteen. And in a few years was fighting Young Corbett, Jimmy Britt, Abe Attell. Bat fought til 1917 when he retired at the age of 35 years old. So he couldn't have had primitive [those days] constructive surgery while he was fighting. And he retired at 35,and this photo is of a guy in his 20s or so. Where is Sherlock Holmes Rocky ?
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Old 10-29-2011, 09:48 AM   #2198
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Rocky,I seriously doubt that this picture was of a young Bat who had his first bout in 1896 at the age of Fourteen. And in a few years was fighting Young Corbett, Jimmy Britt, Abe Attell. Bat fought til 1917 when he retired at the age of 35 years old. So he couldn't have had primitive [those days] constructive surgery while he was fighting. And he retired at 35,and this photo is of a guy in his 20s or so. Where is Sherlock Holmes Rocky ?
Hhmm toughie this one?? Certainly has a strong resemblance for me - a footnote I did read the back story to the Bat-Wolgast 40-rounder both had had cosmetic stuff done prior to that fight - Wolgast I think it was has parafin (!!??) injected into his flattened nose to return it to shape slightly and one day the story goes Wolgast got a zit on his nose and he squeezed and squeezed until finally the spot popped out seeped the parafin and down Wolgasts nose deflated hahaha
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Old 10-29-2011, 11:44 AM   #2199
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Hhmm toughie this one?? Certainly has a strong resemblance for me - a footnote I did read the back story to the Bat-Wolgast 40-rounder both had had cosmetic stuff done prior to that fight - Wolgast I think it was has parafin (!!??) injected into his flattened nose to return it to shape slightly and one day the story goes Wolgast got a zit on his nose and he squeezed and squeezed until finally the spot popped out seeped the parafin and down Wolgasts nose deflated hahaha
Rocky, speaking of nose jobs.My next door neighbor just had a $40,000
nosejob....They put it between her eyes.
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Old 10-29-2011, 07:29 PM   #2200
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The Tall Pine exits the Yankee Stadium ring as victor over Floyd Johnson

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Something awe inspiring seeing Willard in ring at Yankee Stadium which was then brand new ... kind of a crossing of eras ... old world Willard out of the sticks of mid-century Kansas fighting in the mecca of 20th century sport ... mazing image ...
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Rocky, speaking of nose jobs.My next door neighbor just had a $40,000
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Very good Burtie Here's one you'll like (had to do a double take on this one as well just to make sure, hopefully I got this one right )

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Another toughie of the era - Frank Klaus

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Dempsey fooling with Bat Nelson's Kaiser Dummy

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Old 10-29-2011, 11:16 PM   #2205
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Very good Burtie Here's one you'll like (had to do a double take on this one as well just to make sure, hopefully I got this one right )

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Rocky, A GEM ! I have never seen a photo of young Ketchel before.My long deceased Uncle as a boy saw Stanley Ketchel train in Van Cortland Park, Bronx, N.Y. When I asked him as a tyke,about Ketchel,he would only say how "handsome" Ketchel was,and seeing your picture of young Stanley, my Uncle was right. Underneath that handsome visage was a volcano...
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