Where does Andre Ward rank in your top 15?.. and Carl Froch?

Beezy · 10-29-2011, 03:44 PM

I rank Froch just one spot behind Ward. To me, they both are in the top ten.

Ward has clearly beaten Kessler, Abraham, Green, and Bika..... he shows he fights on the inside, but can work on the outside, and for an aggressively dirty fighter, he is pretty slick... i.e. another B Hop but maybe more athletic than Hopkins in his youth..

Froch clearly has the best resume of all the super middleweights, with wins over a lot of good fighters and a close loss to Kessler. Has a chin and can bang... just super slow is all...

So with that I have them around 8 & 9 or 9 & 10.

YOU?????

Beezy · 10-29-2011, 03:47 PM

N my top 15 would look something like 1. Pac 2. May 3.Martinez 4.JMM 5. Donaire 6.Wlad 7.Vitali 8.Ward 9.Froch 10.Bradley 11.Segura 12.Cotto-Khan-Gamboa-Pong-Nishioka

eazym1979 · 10-30-2011, 03:43 PM

Andre about 8 and Froch about 12 give or take

1 Manny Pacquiao 7 Vitali Klitschko 13 Amir Khan

2 Floyd Mayweather 8 Andre Ward 1 4 Orlando Salido

3 Sergio Martinez 9 Timothy Bradley 15 Marcos Maidana

4 Nonito Donaire 10 Yuriorkis Gamboa

5 Juan Manuel Marquez 11 Lucian Bute

6 Wladimir Klitschko 12 Carl Froch

JoeAverage · 10-30-2011, 03:51 PM

Kessler beat Froch and has only ever lost to Calzaghe and Ward... surely he should be top 10... and at least as high as Froch.

Post Box · 10-30-2011, 03:56 PM

I don't have a set list but I would Froch a little higher than ward and possibly sneaking into the top 10. I expect ward to win in December though

persianprince · 10-30-2011, 04:14 PM

Bradley is hype

Prince. · 10-30-2011, 04:18 PM

Why is Timmy rated so high? Are you guys proud of the opponent he's chosen to fight? Shouldn't #2 fighter (some even say 1) in his division fight someone in the top 10 rather than a faded 1 rated 30th?

eazym1979 · 10-30-2011, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prince.

Why is Timmy rated so high? Are you guys proud of the opponent he's chosen to fight? Shouldn't #2 fighter (some even say 1) in his division fight someone in the top 10 rather than a faded 1 rated 30th?

man i hear what your saying but he won his fight with devon alexander

and yes it was a terrible fight but he's undefeated and is in the top

two at junior welterweight and while he should be fighting a real opponent

this is how top rank does business they over protect their fighters

Royal-T-Bag · 10-30-2011, 04:34 PM

1. Floyd Mayweather JR
2. Manny Pacquiao
3. Sergio Martinez

4. Juan Manuel Marquez
5. Wlad Klitschko
6. Vitali Klitshcko
7. Yuriorkis Gamboa
8. Nonito Donaire
9. Amir Khan
10. Carl Froch

11. Andre Ward
12. Lucian Bute
13. Chad Dawson
14. Timothy Bradley
15. Bernard Hopkins
16. Miguel Cotto
17. Jean Pascal
18. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
19. Chris John
20. Vic Darchinyan

21. Fernando Montiel
22. Brandon Rios
23. Abner Mares
24. Robert Guerrero
25. Adrien Broner tie Erislandy Lara

SJS19 · 10-30-2011, 04:38 PM

Pacquaio (due to activity)
Mayweather
Marquez
Martinez
Donaire
Wlad K
Gamboa
Ward
Khan
Vitali
Froch
Hopkins
Cotto
Bradley
Chris John

I refuse to put Bute in until he fights a top calliber fighter.

DDDUUDDDEE · 10-30-2011, 04:42 PM

No way is Bradley in the top ten anymore, especially after his shameful duckage of Khan and only recently beating a guy that most thought lost to Kotelnik.

cesare-borgia · 10-30-2011, 06:57 PM

1.pac
2.mayweather
3.martinez
4.donaire
5.jmm
6.wlad
7.vitali
8.hopkins
9.gamboa
10.segura
11.ward
12.bradley
13.froch
14.khan
15.nishioka

Axe · 10-30-2011, 07:06 PM

Ward top 15, Froch top 20 P4P.

Beezy · 10-30-2011, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeAverage

Kessler beat Froch and has only ever lost to Calzaghe and Ward... surely he should be top 10... and at least as high as Froch.

But who has Kessler beat in the last two years outside of Froch??.. no one.. he's been super inactive........... and might have lost a step so I don't think anyone rates him highly today.... He even refused to face Bute

Beezy · 10-30-2011, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Royal-T-Bag

1. Floyd Mayweather JR
2. Manny Pacquiao
3. Sergio Martinez

4. Juan Manuel Marquez
5. Wlad Klitschko
6. Vitali Klitshcko
7. Yuriorkis Gamboa
8. Nonito Donaire
9. Amir Khan
10. Carl Froch

11. Andre Ward
12. Lucian Bute
13. Chad Dawson
14. Timothy Bradley
15. Bernard Hopkins
16. Miguel Cotto
17. Jean Pascal
18. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
19. Chris John
20. Vic Darchinyan

21. Fernando Montiel
22. Brandon Rios
23. Abner Mares
24. Robert Guerrero
25. Adrien Broner tie Erislandy Lara

I'm up for the challenge:
1. Pacman
2. Mayweather
3. Martinez
4. JMM
5. Donaire
6. W. Klitschko
7. K. Klitschko
8. Ward
9. Froch
10. Bradley

11. Segura
12. Cotto
13. Khan
14. Noshioka
15. Gamboa
16. Hopkins
17. Pong
18. Bute
19. Salido
20. Dawson

21. Guerrero
22. Agbeko
23. Rios
24. John
25. Ortiz/ Berto

10-29-2011, 03:44 PM	#1
Beezy 2 Eazzy ESB Addict Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Baltimore, Maryland... USA Posts: 2,268 vCash: 500	Where does Andre Ward rank in your top 15?.. and Carl Froch? I rank Froch just one spot behind Ward. To me, they both are in the top ten. Ward has clearly beaten Kessler, Abraham, Green, and Bika..... he shows he fights on the inside, but can work on the outside, and for an aggressively dirty fighter, he is pretty slick... i.e. another B Hop but maybe more athletic than Hopkins in his youth.. Froch clearly has the best resume of all the super middleweights, with wins over a lot of good fighters and a close loss to Kessler. Has a chin and can bang... just super slow is all... So with that I have them around 8 & 9 or 9 & 10. YOU?????
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Beezy 2 Eazzy ESB Addict Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Baltimore, Maryland... USA Posts: 2,268 vCash: 500	Re: Where does Andre Ward rank in your top 15?.. and Carl Froch? N my top 15 would look something like 1. Pac 2. May 3.Martinez 4.JMM 5. Donaire 6.Wlad 7.Vitali 8.Ward 9.Froch 10.Bradley 11.Segura 12.Cotto-Khan-Gamboa-Pong-Nishioka
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eazym1979 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: the USA Posts: 1,443 vCash: 500	Re: Where does Andre Ward rank in your top 15?.. and Carl Froch? Andre about 8 and Froch about 12 give or take 1 Manny Pacquiao 7 Vitali Klitschko 13 Amir Khan 2 Floyd Mayweather 8 Andre Ward 1 4 Orlando Salido 3 Sergio Martinez 9 Timothy Bradley 15 Marcos Maidana 4 Nonito Donaire 10 Yuriorkis Gamboa 5 Juan Manuel Marquez 11 Lucian Bute 6 Wladimir Klitschko 12 Carl Froch
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Royal-T-Bag Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 11,396 vCash: 1000	Re: Where does Andre Ward rank in your top 15?.. and Carl Froch? 1. Floyd Mayweather JR 2. Manny Pacquiao 3. Sergio Martinez 4. Juan Manuel Marquez 5. Wlad Klitschko 6. Vitali Klitshcko 7. Yuriorkis Gamboa 8. Nonito Donaire 9. Amir Khan 10. Carl Froch 11. Andre Ward 12. Lucian Bute 13. Chad Dawson 14. Timothy Bradley 15. Bernard Hopkins 16. Miguel Cotto 17. Jean Pascal 18. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam 19. Chris John 20. Vic Darchinyan 21. Fernando Montiel 22. Brandon Rios 23. Abner Mares 24. Robert Guerrero 25. Adrien Broner tie Erislandy Lara
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SJS19 Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Essex, UK Posts: 13,454 vCash: 75	Re: Where does Andre Ward rank in your top 15?.. and Carl Froch? Pacquaio (due to activity) Mayweather Marquez Martinez Donaire Wlad K Gamboa Ward Khan Vitali Froch Hopkins Cotto Bradley Chris John I refuse to put Bute in until he fights a top calliber fighter.
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