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Old 10-29-2011, 04:44 PM   #1
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Default Where does Andre Ward rank in your top 15?.. and Carl Froch?

I rank Froch just one spot behind Ward. To me, they both are in the top ten.

Ward has clearly beaten Kessler, Abraham, Green, and Bika..... he shows he fights on the inside, but can work on the outside, and for an aggressively dirty fighter, he is pretty slick... i.e. another B Hop but maybe more athletic than Hopkins in his youth..

Froch clearly has the best resume of all the super middleweights, with wins over a lot of good fighters and a close loss to Kessler. Has a chin and can bang... just super slow is all...

So with that I have them around 8 & 9 or 9 & 10.

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Old 10-29-2011, 04:47 PM   #2
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Default Re: Where does Andre Ward rank in your top 15?.. and Carl Froch?

N my top 15 would look something like 1. Pac 2. May 3.Martinez 4.JMM 5. Donaire 6.Wlad 7.Vitali 8.Ward 9.Froch 10.Bradley 11.Segura 12.Cotto-Khan-Gamboa-Pong-Nishioka
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Old 10-30-2011, 04:43 PM   #3
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Andre about 8 and Froch about 12 give or take

1 Manny Pacquiao 7 Vitali Klitschko 13 Amir Khan

2 Floyd Mayweather 8 Andre Ward 1 4 Orlando Salido

3 Sergio Martinez 9 Timothy Bradley 15 Marcos Maidana

4 Nonito Donaire 10 Yuriorkis Gamboa

5 Juan Manuel Marquez 11 Lucian Bute

6 Wladimir Klitschko 12 Carl Froch
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Old 10-30-2011, 04:51 PM   #4
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Default Re: Where does Andre Ward rank in your top 15?.. and Carl Froch?

Kessler beat Froch and has only ever lost to Calzaghe and Ward... surely he should be top 10... and at least as high as Froch.
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Old 10-30-2011, 04:56 PM   #5
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Default Re: Where does Andre Ward rank in your top 15?.. and Carl Froch?

I don't have a set list but I would Froch a little higher than ward and possibly sneaking into the top 10. I expect ward to win in December though
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Old 10-30-2011, 05:14 PM   #6
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Bradley is hype
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Old 10-30-2011, 05:18 PM   #7
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Default Re: Where does Andre Ward rank in your top 15?.. and Carl Froch?

Why is Timmy rated so high? Are you guys proud of the opponent he's chosen to fight? Shouldn't #2 fighter (some even say 1) in his division fight someone in the top 10 rather than a faded 1 rated 30th?
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Old 10-30-2011, 05:28 PM   #8
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Why is Timmy rated so high? Are you guys proud of the opponent he's chosen to fight? Shouldn't #2 fighter (some even say 1) in his division fight someone in the top 10 rather than a faded 1 rated 30th?

man i hear what your saying but he won his fight with devon alexander

and yes it was a terrible fight but he's undefeated and is in the top

two at junior welterweight and while he should be fighting a real opponent

this is how top rank does business they over protect their fighters
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Old 10-30-2011, 05:34 PM   #9
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1. Floyd Mayweather JR
2. Manny Pacquiao
3. Sergio Martinez

4. Juan Manuel Marquez
5. Wlad Klitschko
6. Vitali Klitshcko
7. Yuriorkis Gamboa
8. Nonito Donaire
9. Amir Khan
10. Carl Froch

11. Andre Ward
12. Lucian Bute
13. Chad Dawson
14. Timothy Bradley
15. Bernard Hopkins
16. Miguel Cotto
17. Jean Pascal
18. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
19. Chris John
20. Vic Darchinyan

21. Fernando Montiel
22. Brandon Rios
23. Abner Mares
24. Robert Guerrero
25. Adrien Broner tie Erislandy Lara
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Old 10-30-2011, 05:38 PM   #10
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Pacquaio (due to activity)
Mayweather
Marquez
Martinez
Donaire
Wlad K
Gamboa
Ward
Khan
Vitali
Froch
Hopkins
Cotto
Bradley
Chris John

I refuse to put Bute in until he fights a top calliber fighter.
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Old 10-30-2011, 05:42 PM   #11
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Default Re: Where does Andre Ward rank in your top 15?.. and Carl Froch?

No way is Bradley in the top ten anymore, especially after his shameful duckage of Khan and only recently beating a guy that most thought lost to Kotelnik.
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Old 10-30-2011, 07:57 PM   #12
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1.pac
2.mayweather
3.martinez
4.donaire
5.jmm
6.wlad
7.vitali
8.hopkins
9.gamboa
10.segura
11.ward
12.bradley
13.froch
14.khan
15.nishioka
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Ward top 15, Froch top 20 P4P.
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Kessler beat Froch and has only ever lost to Calzaghe and Ward... surely he should be top 10... and at least as high as Froch.
But who has Kessler beat in the last two years outside of Froch??.. no one.. he's been super inactive........... and might have lost a step so I don't think anyone rates him highly today.... He even refused to face Bute
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1. Floyd Mayweather JR
2. Manny Pacquiao
3. Sergio Martinez

4. Juan Manuel Marquez
5. Wlad Klitschko
6. Vitali Klitshcko
7. Yuriorkis Gamboa
8. Nonito Donaire
9. Amir Khan
10. Carl Froch

11. Andre Ward
12. Lucian Bute
13. Chad Dawson
14. Timothy Bradley
15. Bernard Hopkins
16. Miguel Cotto
17. Jean Pascal
18. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
19. Chris John
20. Vic Darchinyan

21. Fernando Montiel
22. Brandon Rios
23. Abner Mares
24. Robert Guerrero
25. Adrien Broner tie Erislandy Lara

I'm up for the challenge:
1. Pacman
2. Mayweather
3. Martinez
4. JMM
5. Donaire
6. W. Klitschko
7. K. Klitschko
8. Ward
9. Froch
10. Bradley

11. Segura
12. Cotto
13. Khan
14. Noshioka
15. Gamboa
16. Hopkins
17. Pong
18. Bute
19. Salido
20. Dawson

21. Guerrero
22. Agbeko
23. Rios
24. John
25. Ortiz/ Berto
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