Klitschko - Tyson - Page 4

orriray59 · 11-03-2011, 11:50 AM

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Uhm Lennox was also shot to pieces and wasn't tired like Tyson was

No, Lewis wasn't shot to pieces. This is quite clear, he wasn't prime, no, but to say he was shot is bullshit. Shot is when you're absolutely unable to perform anywhere near what you would usually do. Ali against Holmes is shot, but Ali against Foreman is past prime.

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Sorry if the truth hurts but Mike's conditioning and stamina were never his strengths

I'm assuming you've never watched a prime Tyson fight?

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He looked good when he could knock out some overmatched nobodies in 3 rounds but looked crappy and helpless if he had to go in the 2nd half of the fights and got hit.

Oh man, just shut the fuck up and go back to the General.

lepinthehood · 11-03-2011, 12:06 PM

orriray watch tyson vs holyfield. when his punches arent killing his opponent then tyson usually gets disheartened, and when he was eating leather from holyfield his defence bob and weave went out the window. now vitalis chin could be as good as evanders, and he hits harder. this wasnt prime tyson but still a decent tyson and vitali hadnt hit prime vs past prime lewis and still looked pretty good. and if anyone were to intimidate tyson it would be vitali. btw i prefer tyson but theres no point looking past these things.

PowerPuncher · 11-03-2011, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by lepinthehood

orriray watch tyson vs holyfield. when his punches arent killing his opponent then tyson usually gets disheartened, and when he was eating leather from holyfield his defence bob and weave went out the window. now vitalis chin could be as good as evanders, and he hits harder. this wasnt prime tyson but still a decent tyson and vitali hadnt hit prime vs past prime lewis and still looked pretty good. and if anyone were to intimidate tyson it would be vitali. btw i prefer tyson but theres no point looking past these things.

Tyson had all those years of innactivity coming into the Holy fight but watch the fight again, he keeps coming back at Holyfield until the end

orriray59 · 11-03-2011, 03:26 PM

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orriray watch tyson vs holyfield.

I already have.

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when his punches arent killing his opponent then tyson usually gets disheartened

Watch Ribalta, Green, Tucker, Tillis, etc.

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eating leather from holyfield his defence bob and weave went out the window.

It was non-existent post-prison. You can't lose what you don't have.

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this wasnt prime tyson but still a decent tyson

A decent Tyson? It was an okay Tyson at best.

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and vitali hadnt hit prime vs past prime lewis and still looked pretty good.

What do you mean? He looked great in that fight, looked great in the Sanders fight, and then retired for four years.

Of course he was in prime.

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btw i prefer tyson but theres no point looking past these things.

I didn't look past much.

Threetime no1 · 11-03-2011, 04:26 PM

I find it stupid how some people on here look at the difference in height between a middle-aged Tyson and a prime Vitali and just assume Vitali kicks his ass. Madness.
Tyson was an animal who would give Vitali has much has he can handle, if not more than he could handle.
Let's not forget how weak Vitali's skin is, and how fast a young Tyson punched. That's a recipe for cuts right there.

frankenfrank · 11-03-2011, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Threetime no1

I find it stupid how some people on here look at the difference in height between a middle-aged Tyson and a prime Vitali and just assume Vitali kicks his ass. Madness.
Tyson was an animal who would give Vitali has much has he can handle, if not more than he could handle.
Let's not forget how weak Vitali's skin is, and how fast a young Tyson punched. That's a recipe for cuts right there.

actually no . Tyson could not reach Vitali's head .

Azzer85 · 11-03-2011, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Threetime no1

I find it stupid how some people on here look at the difference in height between a middle-aged Tyson and a prime Vitali and just assume Vitali kicks his ass. Madness.
Tyson was an animal who would give Vitali has much has he can handle, if not more than he could handle.
Let's not forget how weak Vitali's skin is, and how fast a young Tyson punched. That's a recipe for cuts right there.

How long did an old shot Tyson last against LL and then compare how long a prime Vitali lasted against LL.

Vitalis claim to fame...."i was beating (old) Lennox before the fight was stopped."

Well, so was Frank fucking Bruno!

This is for those who dont seem to remember Tyson in his prime

teeto · 11-03-2011, 04:50 PM

One thing I would bet the house on is that Vitali has an infinitely better chance than Wladimir against Tyson

madballster · 11-03-2011, 04:50 PM

The only fight I remember Mike inflicting cuts on his opposition was the first Bruno fight IIRC. And Holyfield's ear if one wants to count that. Any other ones?

Azzer85 · 11-03-2011, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by PowerPuncher

Tyson had all those years of innactivity coming into the Holy fight but watch the fight again, he keeps coming back at Holyfield until the end

Ah but the thing is, Vitali wouldnt be fighting THAT Tyson, he would be fighting THIS Tyson

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58aMy4MzVsU[/ame]

Threetime no1 · 11-03-2011, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by madballster

The only fight I remember Mike inflicting cuts on his opposition was the first Bruno fight IIRC. And Holyfield's ear if one wants to count that. Any other ones?

But did anyone cut as easy as Vitali other than Henry Cooper?

Threetime no1 · 11-03-2011, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Azzer85

How long did an old shot Tyson last against LL and then compare how long a prime Vitali lasted against LL.

Vitalis claim to fame...."i was beating (old) Lennox before the fight was stopped."

Well, so was Frank fucking Bruno!

This is for those who dont seem to remember Tyson in his prime

I see your point azzer, others won't. Remember each fight is different.

But yeah it's preposterous to pick a winner just on height alone. Which is happening here.

Bruno was no mug either!

Threetime no1 · 11-03-2011, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by frankenfrank

actually no . Tyson could not reach Vitali's head .

Well i've reached someones jaw who was 6"6 and i'm only 5"10. So i'd give Tyson a great shot!

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One thing I would bet the house on is that Vitali has an infinitely better chance than Wladimir against Tyson

No doubt

frankenfrank · 11-03-2011, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Threetime no1

Well i've reached someones jaw who ws 6"6 and i'm only 5"10. So i'd give Tyson a great shot!

At cutting his jaw , maybe .
And while Vitali is really not above 6'6" , Tyson is below 5'10"

Threetime no1 · 11-03-2011, 05:25 PM

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At cutting his jaw , maybe .
And while Vitali is really not above 6'6" , Tyson is below 5'10"

Well Tyson was listed as 5"11 so i will take from that he is 5"10.

11-03-2011, 12:06 PM	#47
lepinthehood Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 593 vCash: 500	Re: Klitschko - Tyson orriray watch tyson vs holyfield. when his punches arent killing his opponent then tyson usually gets disheartened, and when he was eating leather from holyfield his defence bob and weave went out the window. now vitalis chin could be as good as evanders, and he hits harder. this wasnt prime tyson but still a decent tyson and vitali hadnt hit prime vs past prime lewis and still looked pretty good. and if anyone were to intimidate tyson it would be vitali. btw i prefer tyson but theres no point looking past these things.
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11-03-2011, 04:26 PM	#50
Threetime no1 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The Lion's Den Posts: 3,582 vCash: 1537	Re: Klitschko - Tyson I find it stupid how some people on here look at the difference in height between a middle-aged Tyson and a prime Vitali and just assume Vitali kicks his ass. Madness. Tyson was an animal who would give Vitali has much has he can handle, if not more than he could handle. Let's not forget how weak Vitali's skin is, and how fast a young Tyson punched. That's a recipe for cuts right there.
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11-03-2011, 04:50 PM	#53
teeto Next Level Predictions East Side VIP Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Team Ireland Manor, Easing Pabuiao into the life of managing the GOAT Posts: 33,956 vCash: 1000	Re: Klitschko - Tyson One thing I would bet the house on is that Vitali has an infinitely better chance than Wladimir against Tyson
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11-03-2011, 04:50 PM	#54
madballster Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 9,042 vCash: 1000	Re: Klitschko - Tyson The only fight I remember Mike inflicting cuts on his opposition was the first Bruno fight IIRC. And Holyfield's ear if one wants to count that. Any other ones?
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