Trivia question for statistical buffs

scartissue · 11-12-2011, 01:58 PM

Came across this incident by accident today while doing a bit of research and was amazed at it. Don't know if it's been replicated but can anyone name a fighter or fighters that received 2 title shots and in both cases lost their previous bout? Hint: it was not an immediate rematch so rule that out.

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lufcrazy · 11-12-2011, 02:13 PM

Glen johnson?

scartissue · 11-12-2011, 02:52 PM

Y'know, Glen Johnson is an almost. He has fought for so many titles with so many sanctioning initials after them that I didn't think about him losing to Bute right after losing to Froch. He had something earlier but that was a WBU thing so let's not even go there. But I will consider everything up through WBO, how's that? I will say this, my subject fought for an undisputed title.

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lufcrazy · 11-12-2011, 04:24 PM

Well floyd patterson did after losing to ingo and liston.

Maybe joe walcott did also?

By the use of the word undisputed I think maybe your subject is from the modern multi belt era and fought for a unified title?

scartissue · 11-12-2011, 08:57 PM

Remember, no immediate rematches. This guy actually received 2 title shots and had lost his previous bout both times. Uncanny as it is it did happen.

TartanSoldier · 11-12-2011, 09:39 PM

The amount of times I was so close with Mickey Walker was ridiculous.

Bukkake · 11-12-2011, 09:45 PM

Abe Simon

In his 2 title shots against Joe Louis he came off losses to Jim Thompson and Lem Franklin, respectively.

lufcrazy · 11-12-2011, 09:47 PM

Hmmmmm I don't have boxrec infront of me but perhaps judah?

Lost to baldomir before fighting floyd. Then lost to floyd before fighting cotto.

I think i'm ruling out any heavyweights.

Hill lost to hearns before fighting for the vacant wba then lost to dm before fighting jones jr?

TartanSoldier · 11-12-2011, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bukkake

Abe Simon

In his 2 title shots against Joe Louis he came off losses to Jim Thompson and Lem Franklin, respectively.

Damnit I went through a few Louis opponents.

scartissue · 11-12-2011, 11:41 PM

Bukkake has it. Abe Simon it is.

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scartissue · 11-13-2011, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lufcrazy

Hmmmmm I don't have boxrec infront of me but perhaps judah?

Lost to baldomir before fighting floyd. Then lost to floyd before fighting cotto.

I think i'm ruling out any heavyweights.

Hill lost to hearns before fighting for the vacant wba then lost to dm before fighting jones jr?

Good try on both counts, dude, but Judah and Hill's losses to Baldomir and Hearns respectively were title defenses. It doth appear that Abe Simon was the only fighter to get a shot at the crown twice by losing his previous bout.

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11-12-2011, 01:58 PM	#1
scartissue Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,046 vCash: 1000	Trivia question for statistical buffs Came across this incident by accident today while doing a bit of research and was amazed at it. Don't know if it's been replicated but can anyone name a fighter or fighters that received 2 title shots and in both cases lost their previous bout? Hint: it was not an immediate rematch so rule that out. Scartissue
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11-12-2011, 02:13 PM	#2
lufcrazy requiescat in pace East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: England, Up North Posts: 22,448 vCash: 330	Re: Trivia question for statistical buffs Glen johnson?
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11-12-2011, 02:52 PM	#3
scartissue Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,046 vCash: 1000	Re: Trivia question for statistical buffs Y'know, Glen Johnson is an almost. He has fought for so many titles with so many sanctioning initials after them that I didn't think about him losing to Bute right after losing to Froch. He had something earlier but that was a WBU thing so let's not even go there. But I will consider everything up through WBO, how's that? I will say this, my subject fought for an undisputed title. Scartissue
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11-12-2011, 04:24 PM	#4
lufcrazy requiescat in pace East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: England, Up North Posts: 22,448 vCash: 330	Re: Trivia question for statistical buffs Well floyd patterson did after losing to ingo and liston. Maybe joe walcott did also? By the use of the word undisputed I think maybe your subject is from the modern multi belt era and fought for a unified title?
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11-12-2011, 08:57 PM	#5
scartissue Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,046 vCash: 1000	Re: Trivia question for statistical buffs Remember, no immediate rematches. This guy actually received 2 title shots and had lost his previous bout both times. Uncanny as it is it did happen.
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11-12-2011, 09:39 PM	#6
TartanSoldier Barnburner. ESB Jr Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Scotland Posts: 190 vCash: 500	Re: Trivia question for statistical buffs The amount of times I was so close with Mickey Walker was ridiculous.
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11-12-2011, 09:45 PM	#7
Bukkake Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 919 vCash: 500	Re: Trivia question for statistical buffs Abe Simon In his 2 title shots against Joe Louis he came off losses to Jim Thompson and Lem Franklin, respectively.
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11-12-2011, 09:47 PM	#8
lufcrazy requiescat in pace East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: England, Up North Posts: 22,448 vCash: 330	Re: Trivia question for statistical buffs Hmmmmm I don't have boxrec infront of me but perhaps judah? Lost to baldomir before fighting floyd. Then lost to floyd before fighting cotto. I think i'm ruling out any heavyweights. Hill lost to hearns before fighting for the vacant wba then lost to dm before fighting jones jr?
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11-12-2011, 11:41 PM	#10
scartissue Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,046 vCash: 1000	Re: Trivia question for statistical buffs Bukkake has it. Abe Simon it is. Scartissue
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