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Old 11-13-2011, 08:43 PM   #16
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Default Re: Is Frazier-Foster the best example of swarming pressure fighting on film?

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I can't accept that size had marginal bearing on the outcome of the result..
Foster landed maybe 2% of the landed blows in this fight. He was a big hitter himself but if foster lands only about 2% of the total he’s not making that much impression because even the biggest hitters need to be landing more often to make enough perfect connections to be a factor.

Frazier was so red hot he was making a much higher ratio of "perfect connections" that night.

with that kind of ratio even though foster has reach and height on frazier he is not making an impression even if had of been heavier.
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Old 11-13-2011, 09:23 PM   #17
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Frazier really shut Foster out in this one, utter annihilation.
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Old 11-14-2011, 02:09 AM   #18
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“My toughest fight was Smokin’ Joe Frazier. It only lasted two round, but those two rounds seemed like a year with that sucker comin’ at you. He was the closest you could come to facing death. Why’d I take it? ****, the money!

Me and Joe were tight, before and after the fight. That’s why he gave me a shot, because we were friends, you know. Afterwards, I said, ‘Damn Joe, you tried to kill me in there!’ He said, ‘No, I didn’t try to kill you, but I couldn’t just let you come in and take my title.’ I said, ‘Well, I was gonna do more than just show up, Joe.’ He said, ‘Yeah, I know you was. That’s why I had to stop you in the second round.’ Joe and I, we went out to a bar and got drunk that night, yeah . . .”

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Foster also said he started lacing up his boots in the dressing room after the fight was over.....his manager had to tell him he had been knocked out earlier.
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Old 11-14-2011, 02:25 AM   #19
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My issue with Joe killing Bob back in '70 is, Joe was a good 20+ solid pounds of muscle bigger than Bob..... Is it a shock that Joe went through Bob like a hot knife through butter?


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Old 11-14-2011, 02:28 AM   #20
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4 months later Ali got the same left hook and related pounding.

Frazier at his prime.
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Old 11-14-2011, 02:33 AM   #21
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4 months later Ali got the same left hook and related pounding.

Frazier at his prime.
Ali's effort in '71 is planets apart from what Bobby Foster did in 1970...

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Old 11-14-2011, 03:00 AM   #22
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Ali's effort in '71 is planets apart from what Bobby Foster did in 1970...

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You said Frazier had 20 lbs on Foster.

Ali had 10 lbs on Frazier, and there was Ali out bouncing around on the canvas.
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Old 11-14-2011, 03:15 AM   #23
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Ali went down, but not out...... Plus, Ali was right there next to Frazier in the end after rd. 15.....

Foster was seeing stars inside rd. 2 for Amon-Ra's sake.......

No real comparison.......

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Old 11-14-2011, 04:20 AM   #24
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My issue with Joe killing Bob back in '70 is, Joe was a good 20+ solid pounds of muscle bigger than Bob.....
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Bobs land ratio was like 2%, he should have had the edge in speed. Its not like frazier had to walk through ANYTHING since joe was beating bob to the punch from the off. had Foster have been bigger, maybe he absorbs more shots for longer but with his bell being rung so often it was always going to be a beating. You cant build up a chin.
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Old 11-14-2011, 06:10 AM   #25
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Foster also said he started lacing up his boots in the dressing room after the fight was over.....his manager had to tell him he had been knocked out earlier.

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