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Old 07-09-2007, 07:15 AM   #136
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1. Holman Williams is probably the most underrated fighter ever.

2. Jack Dempsey is the most overrated heavyweight.

3. The original Joe Walcott would beat all the welterweights today.

4. Jose Napoles has the best chance to beat Sugar Ray Robinson at welterweight.

5. Julio Cesar Chavez would beat Henry Armstrong at lightweight.

6. Three out of my top five light-heavyweights never held the belt (Ezzard, Tunney and Langford).

7. Kid Gavilan would beat Tommy Hearns at welterweight.

8. The Chavez vs. Taylor stoppage was justified.

9. At their best I would favour Frazier over Ali.

10. Aaron Pryor would have lost to Arguello in the first fight had it not been for the black bottle.
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Old 07-09-2007, 07:22 AM   #137
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10. Aaron Pyor would have lost to Arguello in the first fight had it not been for the black bottle.
Oh come on it was only Peppermint Schnapps in the bottle. Panama Lewis stuck his reputation on it, so it must be true
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Old 05-25-2013, 04:16 PM   #138
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Davey Moore pre-Duran had a very good chance of beating, and stopping Thomas Hearns.

Michael Dokes was lucky to have Don King in his corner, otherwise would've had a very hard time of winning the heavyweight belt.

Howard Davis Jr could've beaten Jose Luis Ramirez

Milton McCrory beats Donald Curry if they fought circa 1983.

Tim Witherspoon beats Mike Tyson circa 1986

Aaron Pryor always beat Alexis Arguello

Antonio Cervantes probably would've beaten Roberto Duran circa 1975.
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Old 05-25-2013, 04:20 PM   #139
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vitali klitschko is black
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Old 05-25-2013, 05:43 PM   #140
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Dwight Muhammad Qawi is one of the greatest and best lhws ever.
But is it that strange?

Shame he had pneumonia coming into the Spinks fight.
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Old 05-25-2013, 05:57 PM   #141
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It is a fact that the cut on Marvin Hagler's forehead was caused by Tommy Hearns mouthpiece when both were throwing a right hand to the body. Tommy was breathing out of his mouth like he did when he was tired and Hagler's head ran into Tommy's forehead as both guy threw the right to the body.
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Old 05-25-2013, 06:33 PM   #142
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I only say the following because they aren't the general consensus, but they are my opinions:

The top 3 heavyweights (in their primes) of the classic era are imo Dempsey, Louis, and Marciano. The top 3 heavyweights (in their primes) of the modern era are imo Clay, Tyson, and Holyfield. Prime Roy Jones Jr is the greatest middle/super-middle in history and would beat anyone-anywhen at those weights. Lennox Lewis is the most overrated HW champ in history and gets WAYYYYYY too much credit for accomplishing pretty much nothing, and beating pretty much no one. Tua had the potential to be an ATG if he would've had the right trainer. Hearns would've been virtually unbeatable if he'd had a better chin. Prime Pacquiao would beat prime Mayweather Jr. Foreman actually got better with age in many ways. Hagler beat Leonard in '87 imo.
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Old 05-25-2013, 08:13 PM   #143
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Threads awesome, some of it is mental. lol
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Old 05-25-2013, 10:35 PM   #144
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Joe Louis is incredible overrated H2h. i see him getting knocked out by Tyson,Lewis,and Liston. And getting outpointed by Ali and Holmes. His chin wasn't very sturdy imo and he could be outboxed.
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Old 05-25-2013, 11:14 PM   #145
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Joe Louis is incredible overrated H2h. i see him getting knocked out by Tyson,Lewis,and Liston. And getting outpointed by Ali and Holmes. His chin wasn't very sturdy imo and he could be outboxed.

Joe Louis isn't overrated at all. He's an ATG. I agree he'd get KO'd by Tyson. Lewis and Liston, not so much. Outpointed by Clay and Holmes, yes, most likely most of the time. His chin was as good as Lewis' and Liston's.
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Old 05-26-2013, 05:18 AM   #146
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Generally speaking the smaller fighters have better chins than the big guys. The fdifference between a bantam punching a bantam and a HW punching a HW is not the relative power in the punches but the relative ability of the neck muscles to absorb a punch
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Old 05-26-2013, 06:52 AM   #147
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Marciano had the greatest jab of all.
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Old 05-26-2013, 08:47 AM   #148
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It is hard for me to matchup Joe Louis well in head to head fights against any great heavyweight
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Old 05-26-2013, 08:51 AM   #149
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Generally speaking the smaller fighters have better chins than the big guys. The fdifference between a bantam punching a bantam and a HW punching a HW is not the relative power in the punches but the relative ability of the neck muscles to absorb a punch
Don't forget generally heavyweights have worse stamina than lower weight classes which also causes more KOs
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Old 05-27-2013, 04:28 AM   #150
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-head to head prime for prime Larry Holmes beats Ali 9 out of 10 times.
-Micheal Moorer is underratted as a heavyweight accomplishment wise and talent wise.
-Holyfield head butt is his best weapon.
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