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Old 11-18-2011, 10:46 AM   #46
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out of interest has anyone read a copy of 'we need to talk about alan' yet?, think ill get the missus to throw it in my xmas stocking
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Old 11-18-2011, 11:00 AM   #47
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Good kickers can screw you up bigtime...
Iron chinned Ray Mercer was KO'd in about 20 seconds in a K1 fight against Bonjaski (spelling?) by a headkick. Sooo much harder as punches.
He didn't get knocked out though.
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Old 11-18-2011, 11:43 AM   #48
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As anyone seen the klitskho movie yet?? I seen a torrent for it so know its available to watch
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Old 11-18-2011, 12:15 PM   #49
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He didn't get knocked out though.
Yeah after the first kick he simply decided he didn't want to fight. Disgraceful.
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Old 11-18-2011, 12:58 PM   #50
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So basically he knocked Klit down in an amateur light contact fight and the fight was waved off?

Why would Vitali be so keen on hiding his amateur losses etc., its all part of their learning process and what made them the fighter they are today.
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Old 11-18-2011, 01:03 PM   #51
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So basically he knocked Klit down in an amateur light contact fight and the fight was waved off?

Why would Vitali be so keen on hiding his amateur losses etc., its all part of their learning process and what made them the fighter they are today.
Lol, are you just reading the bits you want to? He was out before he hit the floor!!!
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Old 11-18-2011, 01:04 PM   #52
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Vitali got ko'd from a spinning heel kick, that's true.
But to be fair Oliver McCall couldn't take a heel kick delivered by a 6'4 235lb kickboxer, no one could.
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Old 11-18-2011, 01:09 PM   #53
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Thats very true.

I think the point is Klitchko and his fans prefer to deny it ever happened!!!
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Old 11-18-2011, 01:12 PM   #54
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Thats very true.

I think the point is Klitchko and his fans prefer to deny it ever happened!!!
That's a given Will, he's never been defeated in their eyes.
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Old 11-18-2011, 01:24 PM   #55
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Lol, are you just reading the bits you want to? He was out before he hit the floor!!!
I only read the Yahoo ANswers page, it said

" had it been regular Boxing or Kickboxing rules, there was no way there would have been any kind of ten-count. As it was, being a light-contact match, the ref just waved the fight off and Reid was the new European Champion"

I mistook that as meaning "no way would the ref have reached the count of 10" ina boxing match, as opposed to him being KOed. Im not a Vitali lover, and I'm sure its true. Just not sure theres really a video circulating.
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Old 11-18-2011, 01:26 PM   #56
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Read what Gary "Smiler" Turner has to say.

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The news story about Vitali Klitschkoís kickboxing is NOT that he lost to Pele Reid, a guy who tried Boxing and didnít make it. All top Kickboxers have gotten clocked cold, and for the best ones like Hoost, Aerts, Bernardo, Hug, LeBanner, etc., itís happened often, so that isnít news.

The news story here is that Klitschko ran through all the available competition in Europe in the late 80ís, early 90ís, became a multiple world champion, and he did it all as a teenager !


Actually, the match with Reid was in Varna, Bulgaria at the WAKO European Kickboxing Championships, but it took place in 1992, not 93í.

But because Klitschko actually became famous years later on the world stage, that stoppage loss to Reid has become quite a little controversy, but accounts of what happened contrast sharply.

Smiler Turner is a good guy, good fighter and good poster here and we have no reason to doubt his account, but there are others who disagree.

I donít see why it couldnít have happened, as Klitschko was just a kid at the time (20), and a rail thin 6í7.5Ē 196 pounder who hadnít even gotten to the peak of his amateur Boxing career yet, but itís amazing how difficult it is to get verification of it.

Almost two years ago when people posted first about the KO Iíd asked a friend at ESPN to track Chris McNeish, or anyone down to get a copy, which they offered $5,000 for, but he was unable to get it.

Vitali remembers it being a leg kick for which he had to retire from the fight.
A number of others offer up the same recollection.

When asked, Vitali gets a little defensive, stating:
ďWho is Pele Reid? It was so long ago that I forgot all about him. Nobody knows who Pele Reid is. My fight with him was a semi-contact kickboxing match. I lost that fight because of a kick to my thigh, not a punch. The thigh had been injured previously, and I shouldnít have participated in the match, but I was a determined boyĒ.

Iím told that Master Meiji Suzuki of the Mugendo in London had no recollection of it being a head kick.
Dwyer Evelyn, John Lawson, Keith Wilson, Raf Nieto, George McKenzie and Desmond Burke didnít recall a head kick being involved either, but I personally have no idea if any of them were there in Bulgaria that day & itís not my place to say if any of them were even in position to know one way or the other.

I do know that aside from Reid himself, during at interview with writer Matt Winsper, that Gary Turner is the source always quoted when the idea of a kick to the head of Klitschko comes up.

I know also that Reid never said a word about it to the press until very recently, after the story about a head kick had already circulated for awhile.

That tape would be a great thing to put up on Youtube, if it exists, but so far, nothing.


Maybe Smiler can get hold of it ?
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Old 11-18-2011, 01:27 PM   #57
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It COULD be a load of bullshit. Who knows though.

Regarding the Klitschko documentary, it's online, but in German.
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Old 11-18-2011, 06:24 PM   #58
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Either way, whether it was a flash knock down, no knock down at all, to the thigh, or to the head..

I wanna see a video of it to know for sure!
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Old 11-18-2011, 09:25 PM   #59
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Yeah after the first kick he simply decided he didn't want to fight. Disgraceful.
True, although Mercer did get knocked down from a headkick in his fight with Musashi.
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Old 11-19-2011, 07:13 AM   #60
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Mercer also got a perforated eardum (sp?) from ONE kick from Remy Bonjasky.

Kicking = A different ball game altogether.
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