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Old 11-20-2011, 01:44 PM   #46
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Old 11-20-2011, 01:47 PM   #47
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@ Andre Ward.
What made you think that ?
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Old 11-20-2011, 01:49 PM   #48
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@ Andre Ward.
What made you think that ?
Being connected with Victor Conte.
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Old 11-20-2011, 01:57 PM   #49
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Being connected with Victor Conte.
So, by your logic, Amir Khan and Manny Pacquiao also has Parkinsons because Freddy is their trainor.
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Old 11-20-2011, 02:03 PM   #50
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So, by your logic, Amir Khan and Manny Pacquiao also has Parkinsons because Freddy is their trainor.
Thats an ass stupid comparison you came up with there.

Of course it suspecious when a sportsman works with a guy known for developing and supplying banned substances.
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Old 11-20-2011, 02:05 PM   #51
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Thats an ass stupid comparison you came up with there.
with your ass stupid comment on Ward using PEDS because he's connected with Conte
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Old 11-20-2011, 02:08 PM   #52
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Personally id be suprised if any heavyweights arent on roids.
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Old 11-20-2011, 02:10 PM   #53
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with your ass stupid comment on Ward using PEDS because he's connected with Conte
Iam not saying he is using drugs (How should I know?) Just that there, of course he is suspected of it. Being suspected doesnt always equal guilt.

Of course it suspecious when a sportsman works with a guy known for developing and supplying banned substances.
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Old 11-20-2011, 02:14 PM   #54
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Don't know a damn thing about steroids, do you? No worries, you're in the same boat with alien and vast majority of posters on this site.
Id say Id know more than you.

Im just not one of these nuts who jumps on the bandwagon and say "everyones on steroids"

I hope you're not one of those people who thinks everyone with a six pack and some muscle definition is on riods. They'ere the most annoying people known to man.

STEROIDS help a person recover faster and help explosive events, events where mass and strength are important.

You'll never see a marathon runner on steroids, or a tour de france cyclist.

You may see them on EPO or various other PEDs, but not STEROIDS which is what the TS is talking about.

And since boxing is more of an endurance sport than one that primarily relys on power,strength and muscle mass, I dont see why steroids would be rampant in the sport.
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Old 11-20-2011, 02:16 PM   #55
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He was working with Lee Haney a long time former mr o. he most def cycled. 90 percent of boxers have.
And your evidence/proof that 90% of boxers are on roids is....?
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Old 11-20-2011, 02:19 PM   #56
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Iam not saying he is using drugs (How should I know?) Just that there, of course he is suspected of it. Being suspected doesnt allways equal guilt.
The problem is that many fans talk shit about fighters just because their nutrition coach or someone they were connected with were accused or guilty of giving steroids/peds. If that's the case, JMM, Donaire, Ward could be taking in PEDS that were undetectable on drug tests.

Take the test? then let all fighters take the test (not just one single person. right flomojerks?)
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Old 11-20-2011, 02:33 PM   #57
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The problem is that many fans talk shit about fighters just because their nutrition coach or someone they were connected with were accused or guilty of giving steroids/peds. If that's the case, JMM, Donaire, Ward could be taking in PEDS that were undetectable on drug tests.

Take the test? then let all fighters take the test (not just one single person. right flomojerks?)
I totally agree. Its not like I got hate on those three(Or other boxers in the same situation) I even like Donaire. But naturally, it makes people suspecious. Of course I hope that there is nothing more to it than nutritional and training help. You have to do, when their is no evidence.

Let all fighters take the test? Surely. Iam all in for Olympic-Syle Drug Testing and what not.

Cheaters shall have the slimest chance possible of fooling drug tests

Of course, no chance of fooling it would be better, but also impossible.
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Friends of 50 cent must be suspect! Talk has swirled about many rappers who have maintained suspiciously Olympian musculatures.

But for 50 Cent, in particular, the news could affect his business. A former boxer, he has long promoted himself as fit and abstemious. He also has a line of vitamin water sold through Glacéau, which was bought by Coca-Cola last year for $4.1 billion.

“The marketing of the images is so key now to so many different bottom lines,” Mr. Chang said. “Not just the music industry, but a whole range of consumer products. Your body is your brand and you’ve got to maintain that image. The machoness and braggadoccio, that’s always been a part of hip-hop. What’s different at the highest levels of the money game in hip-hop is the size of it all.”

How the allegations will be received by fans, however, is far from clear. Illegal or unsavory behavior carries little stigma in some corners of the hip-hop world. And troubles with the law can even help the all-important celebrity story line.

“Fans watch these people like they are watching movies,” Danyel Smith, editor of Vibe magazine, said. These kind of controversies, she added “are considered another arc in the narrative. People will wait to see what good, and what tragedy, will come of it.” [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
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Old 11-20-2011, 03:09 PM   #59
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Mariano Natalio Carrera

You know Marinano Natalio Carrera?

He was pretty exciting Fighter.

I think he would have beat Kessler
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Old 11-20-2011, 03:17 PM   #60
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You know Marinano Natalio Carrera?

He was pretty exciting Fighter.

I think he would have beat Kessler
Yup. I saw him beat Castilejo by TKO in the 11. (Only for the fight to be turned into a NC, after Carrera tested positive) That was Castilejos first defence after he he stopped Sturm for the title.

Funnily enough, A year later Castilejo Ko´ed Carrera in six..

Beating Kessler? Only if they land a lucky punch
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