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Old 11-20-2011, 11:25 PM   #46
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Only by delusional Shogun nuthuggers.* The fight last night showed that Shogun is still incredibly dangerous even when he's gassed and has had his smashed in for three rounds.

*On a side note, I've just about had it with the Shogun fans. They think that he's invincible when he's "healthy" and that he's never legitimately lost a fight.
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Old 11-20-2011, 11:47 PM   #47
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Amazing fight. I think it's great that a Pride fight made the list of greatest UFC fights of all time! Wanderlei's triumph on the co-main event made for an interesting curtain raiser for the Shogun/Hendo battle.
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Old 11-21-2011, 12:01 AM   #48
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Clear 3-2 Hendo in my opinion.....

Yeah, Fight of the Year and one of the best 3 of all time......
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Old 11-21-2011, 03:39 AM   #49
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*On a side note, I've just about had it with the Shogun fans. They think that he's invincible when he's "healthy" and that he's never legitimately lost a fight.
Couldn't agree more.

Coleman I? Bad fall. Didn't count.
Griffin I? Injured/not 100%. Didn't count.
Machida I? Robbed. Didn't count.
Jones? Injured/lay off/not 100%. Didn't count?
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Old 11-21-2011, 04:56 AM   #50
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what a amazing fight, i'm actually sad that shogun has to walk away with a L on his record after that showing of chin and heart. IMO there are no losers in this fight.
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Old 11-21-2011, 10:47 AM   #51
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I didn't think it would go 5. It was so violent that I wasn't scoring properly. Only in the 5the 5th which I think is a clear 10-8. Shogun held top mount position and ground and pounded for pretty much 5 mins. My gut says it was 2-2 going into the 5th or at worse 3-1 Hendo. Not outraged by the decision but a draw was fair or 1 point either way.

Both fighters were just incredible in terms of heart and the damage they were so eager to inflict. Unfortunately, stylistically, they know no other way. Neither of them know how to start jabbing and moving, breaking down the legs from a defensive position etc

I can't see Hendo changing but Shogun has to start using his jab and moving his feet.
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Old 11-21-2011, 11:41 AM   #52
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Couldn't agree more.

Coleman I? Bad fall. Didn't count.
Griffin I? Injured/not 100%. Didn't count.
Machida I? Robbed. Didn't count.
Jones? Injured/lay off/not 100%. Didn't count?
Coleman was a bad fall. He broke his arm ffs.

Any time he's had bad cardio it's coming off a long layoff because of an injury.

The Hendo fight was the first time his cardio was suspect for no good reason.

I had him ahead of Machida.

Jones beat him handily. The injury and layoff definitely didn't help, he gassed in the first 2 minutes, but I think a good injury free camp only delays the inevitable. No one is beating Jones.

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Old 11-22-2011, 05:31 AM   #53
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classic fight but i thought shogun deserved a draw, that last round was 10 -8 not 10 -9
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Old 11-22-2011, 05:42 AM   #54
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Time will tell, but does anyone think this fight will be these guys Thriller in Manilla, ie both guys wont quite be the same again

They are both on the arse end of brutal careers as it is
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Old 11-22-2011, 07:36 AM   #55
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I scored it like this:

1: 10-9 Hendo
2: 10-9 Hendo
3: 10-8 Hendo
4: 10-9 Shogun
5: 10-8 Shogun

47-46 Hendo

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Old 11-22-2011, 07:36 AM   #56
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Time will tell, but does anyone think this fight will be these guys Thriller in Manilla, ie both guys wont quite be the same again

They are both on the arse end of brutal careers as it is
I think so for sure. Especially Shogun, fighting that tough of a fight and losing in the end can really **** a fighter mentally.
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Old 11-22-2011, 08:43 AM   #57
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Hendo deserved the nod, not a doubt in my mind; 10/9 - 10/9 - 10/8 - 9/10 - 8/10
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Old 11-22-2011, 10:51 AM   #58
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Hendo deserved the nod, not a doubt in my mind; 10/9 - 10/9 - 10/8 - 9/10 - 8/10
100% right!

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Old 11-22-2011, 10:58 AM   #59
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First round could have gone either way.
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Old 11-22-2011, 11:12 AM   #60
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I was surprised that the ref didn't stop the fight in the 3rd. Dan was absolutely destroying Shogun when he landed his right hand, dropped him, and continued to rain blows on Rua. Had the ref stopped it right there, I wouldn't have a problem with it.

But.... the ref let the fight go on and gave us one of the best MMA fights in history. If HBO ever jumps on the MMA train and does MMA Legendary Nights, this fight is for damn sure going to be one of them.
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