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Old 11-29-2011, 08:39 AM   #31
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Itís not that those guys were definite badasses to beat Floyd. Itís just that the welterweight division, at the time, was stacked with really good fighters fighting each other. The least youíd expect, is for the most talented and skilled one out of all of them, to be part of it. When history looks back at that 2007-2009 period, itíll see the following memorable welterweight fights involving the top welterweight fighters....

- Williams vs Marg
- Mosley vs Cotto
- Cotto vs Marg
- Mosley vs Marg

....and itíll notice that Floyd wasnít involved in any of them. It wonít care why he wasnít involved. It wonít take into account his issues with Arum. Itíll just see a blank slate on Mayweatherís resume during his decision to go into retirement and let the above guys beat each other down, remain inactive, or move up weight classes. That, ultimately, will mean his legacy will not be as great as it should have been. It would have been awesome if heíd beaten Margarito instead of Baldomir, stuck around for Cotto (before or after his fight Margarito), and beaten Mosley right after heíd demolished Margarito. But sadly, he didnít. And that'll be the biggest criticism of his career.
Those guys are not ATG fighters though....excluding Mosley who was past his prime then, and was well past it when Floyd got to him. Cotto was a hype job. 2 paper straps. Best win is over Mosley...past his best(I don't even rate Floyd's win over old Mosley) Margarito....face first brawler. Clearly limited with no real technique or footwork. Paul Williams...best win is over Margarito at 147(I don't count the Sergio win, because I thought he lost)...Extremely limited with no defense..arm puncher. no technique. These guys are not Hearns,Duran, and Hagler. They were what Cruiserweight is now. A division of B/C level fighters who are all so close in talent that the division looks "stacked"
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Old 11-29-2011, 08:40 AM   #32
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There is no way anyone can deny Floyd will always get that justified criticism for not fighting Mosley, Williams, Cotto, and Margarito in their prime. I don't think any of those guys could have beaten him, but he will continue to get criticism for not fighting them.

Once Floyd beats Pac though, this criticism will be overshadowed.
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Old 11-29-2011, 08:42 AM   #33
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Mosley was not in his prime when Floyd retired and had been called out by Floyd before. Mosley didn't fight him for good reason. Floyd was the better fighter, and not a big draw.
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Old 11-29-2011, 09:10 AM   #34
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Mosley was not in his prime when Floyd retired and had been called out by Floyd before. Mosley didn't fight him for good reason. Floyd was the better fighter, and not a big draw.
Floyd should have fought right after he KO'd a mentally flawed Margarito. Instead he waited over a year n still the only reason he fought him was cause it was the only fight he could sell to the public being that he wouldn't fight Pac. That was a bitch move. In the history of boxing Cotto, Williams n Margo will always be ranked ahead of Judah n Baldomir. I don't blame him for taking the De La Hoya payday but let's not act as if Oscar was in his prime.
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Old 11-29-2011, 09:40 AM   #35
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Still thinks like the uneducated young boy that he still is despite being a millionaire and in his early 30s. He has maybe 60 years of life left, and maybe 5 more at most in the ring?
He could retire now, travel the world, see the world, educate himself, learn 10 different languages.
But no, aged 30 something, he says his whole life is about boxing and playing some sob story bullshit. Grow the **** up!
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:06 AM   #36
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There is no way anyone can deny Floyd will always get that justified criticism for not fighting Mosley, Williams, Cotto, and Margarito in their prime. I don't think any of those guys could have beaten him, but he will continue to get criticism for not fighting them.

Once Floyd beats Pac though, this criticism will be overshadowed.

MexicanMuscle that last line you posted is the problem that Mayweather was talking about in that interview. He didn't go to far but I agree with him. The man is 42-0 and 1 victory over Pacquioa of all people will make the criticism go away. Really? It is amazing to me how the media and fans have hyped up Pacquioa to the point that a victory by Mayweather over a Pacquioa who he should beat rather easily is the one to end the criticism.
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:18 AM   #37
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Still thinks like the uneducated young boy that he still is despite being a millionaire and in his early 30s. He has maybe 60 years of life left, and maybe 5 more at most in the ring?
He could retire now, travel the world, see the world, educate himself, learn 10 different languages.
But no, aged 30 something, he says his whole life is about boxing and playing some sob story bullshit. Grow the **** up!
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:18 AM   #38
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One day when you grow up you will look back on this time in your life and just shake your head. Its really sad to a man act the way you do.
doubt it.
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:27 AM   #39
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people will only remember him as "the greatest ducker of all time". sad but true.
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:31 AM   #40
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:35 AM   #41
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That's true on some counts. I mean I heard people talking recently about how Lewis "managed" to avoid Tyson until he was past it....history doesn't do any favors.

But I think that stuff Schaefer said he could expose about Arum could have a lot to do with that period and the fact that Floyd's never fought a TR fighter since he left.
This I've Been saying to Arum Defenders for the Last Couple of Days!!!

Arum didn't want to Make the Fight With Marg and Cotto..All because Floyd Left Top Rank!!!!!

That's the Undisputed FACTS!!!!!!
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:35 AM   #42
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MexicanMuscle that last line you posted is the problem that Mayweather was talking about in that interview. He didn't go to far but I agree with him. The man is 42-0 and 1 victory over Pacquioa of all people will make the criticism go away. Really? It is amazing to me how the media and fans have hyped up Pacquioa to the point that a victory by Mayweather over a Pacquioa who he should beat rather easily is the one to end the criticism.
And I agree with you that it shouldn't be as decisive, but the fact is that it is a fight that has garnered so much attention, that it will be lead to extremes. The victor will get too much credit and the loser will take a lot of negative feedback.
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:40 AM   #43
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people will only remember him as "the greatest ducker of all time". sad but true.
he aint duck or dodge no one. He will be remembered as on of the atg believe that
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:46 AM   #44
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he aint duck or dodge no one. He will be remembered as on of the atg believe that
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:50 AM   #45
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what was the point in posting that? we all know he didnt duck the c fighter and cheater the whole situation goes back to arum
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