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Thank you for posting, great watch.
That video was spot on, until the end. All of the things Marquez does are accentuated by the fact that he is of similar size to Pacquiao and operates with a low center of gravity, unlike taller, distance-oriented counter-punchers. His adjustmentts in and out of range are thus subtle, and not obvious; he can duck under Manny's punches and counter, change the angle laterally while in range to throw, feint him rhythmically without reaching and making the baits seem like obvious efforts, and disrupt Manny's own rhythm by surprise. Floyd can approach the same flaws in his own technical way, but they won't be similar in dimensions at all. All of Marquez's tricks depend on each other, and directly depend on his size and style. You can't isolate them because it won't work. Manny's linear because he's nervous; he's nervous because Marquez seems close, and ducks under or moves subtly; Marquez can move because he's turning laterally; he's turning laterally because he can throw while moving in the pocket; he can do that because of his guard, rhythm, positioning, and overall style. These small things made a huge difference, and they came together in a way that is unique to Marquez's counterpunching style. Their back-and forth rhythm will always be a beautiful thing to watch. Thanks again for posting. Not nearly enough unbiased technical talk on this forum. (Posted the vid in another thread of mine, hope you don't mind, OP.) |
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Excellent vid.
This also highlights why JMM is by far the only fighter to ever give Pac that much of trouble. What he does in the ring is almost relfex action for him after having been such the great technician that he is for the longest time. This is also why other boxers can't just "copy JMM" (see Mosley) because what he does is a product of years and years of experience. Now can somebody tell the creator of the video to do the same for Pac? I mean c'mon, 13mins of video highlighting JMM and 30secs only for Pac's "strengths"? |
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[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=314pcxGkD3o[/ame] [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo-Ucms_pa8[/ame] [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drkEXlkIiMA[/ame] Here are other videos created by him. Many people brushed off the facts and visual proof in these videos because they wanted to believe the fairytale about emmanuel's "improvements". |
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Capo Di Tutti Capi
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great video but this is nothing new. Already saw and knew this during the fight. That is why my opinion about Pac KO'ing marquez was thrown out the window because it became a chess match since the bell rang in the beginning of the third round.
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Capo Di Tutti Capi
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Oh and for those who say Pac hasn't improved, well, he did whether you like to accept it or not. If he didn't, this version of JMM would have rolled on Pac to a Unanimous Decision but JMM failed to do it. Why? Because JMM was also afraid to engage Pac since Pac was also countering him with the same moves JMM was throwing at him. The feints, the counter right hook when jmm was throwing the lead straight, turning Marquez, etc.
My personal opinion about this vid is that it was great but the creator failed to emphasize on what Pac was able to do to give trouble to JMM. Like what Leon said, the creator did not like Pac therefore making this video biased. Good but biased. |
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