lesnar vs overeem!! who u got? - Page 2

Colpolite · 12-23-2011, 01:16 PM

Brock Lesnar is a glorified roided wrestling actor turn ufc fighter. Overeem destroys this suburban musclehead roided white guy in 1 round.

Matty lll · 12-23-2011, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Colpolite

Brock Lesnar is a glorified roided wrestling actor turn ufc fighter. Overeem destroys this suburban musclehead roided white guy in 1 round.

Brock is a very decorated collegiate wrestler, he does have a chance at beating The Reem. That said I'm still taking Overeem via first round TKO.

Sox · 12-23-2011, 01:57 PM

The Reem by brutal KO.
Brock just isn't seasoned enough to hang with someone like Reem.

whopperdong · 12-23-2011, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Matty lll

He's not necessarily good at wrestling or takedown defense per se but he is hard to take down because he is so strong. He does have very good BJJ though, he actually has more wins by submission than by KO. He qualified for the ADCCs a few years back as well.

I can't see that playing a factor if the fight does go to the ground though, Frank Mir has a much better ground game and look what happened to him.

true but frank mir was severely out muscled like u said overeem is strong. so should make subs abit easier to pull off.

Will Munny · 12-23-2011, 02:21 PM

Brock wins easily. Take down in the first 15 seconds, and then Overeem gets pounded out before the end of the first round.

And OVereem is not a stronger or more skilled grappler than Mir.

Matty lll · 12-23-2011, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Will Munny

Brock wins easily. Take down in the first 15 seconds, and then Overeem gets pounded out before the end of the first round.

And OVereem is not a stronger or more skilled grappler than Mir.

But he is a much much better striker than Carwin and Velasquez combined and look what they did to Brock. You are full of shit. Brock could win via ground and pound decision or T/KO but it won't be easy and won't be within the first 15 seconds.

The fight starts on the feet and that is were Overeem has an overwhelming advantage. If anyone's getting TKOed quick it'll be Lesnar.

Primenal · 12-23-2011, 02:50 PM

Reem just needs to land one shot... Any shot.... Whether it be a punch, kick, a knee perhaps... Any will do.
If he doesn't quickly though I'd be interested in seeing Brock trying to wrestle him down. Just interested to see how strong Reem actually is, and see how he reacts to getting taken down/ trying to be took down by somebody like Brock.

Heavy Handed · 12-23-2011, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Primenal

Reem just needs to land one shot... Any shot.... Whether it be a punch, kick, a knee perhaps... Any will do.
If he doesn't quickly though I'd be interested in seeing Brock trying to wrestle him down. Just interested to see how strong Reem actually is, and see how he reacts to getting taken down/ trying to be took down by somebody like Brock.

I wonder how Alistair vs Brock would do under Sumo rules?

Primenal · 12-23-2011, 03:27 PM

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I wonder how Alistair vs Brock would do under Sumo rules?

That might be a bit more competetive, and longer lasting excitement than what this fight is probably going to do. Almost everybody agrees... Safest bet is Overeem KO1. Probably be a nice highlight reel, but not much of a match.

StillWill · 12-23-2011, 04:18 PM

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In kickboxing I think it is. Not sure though, ask StillWill

I've seen quite a few dutch kickboxers do it. As previously said, like Saki:
http://i53.tinypic.com/34s1015.jpg

go around 2:30 to see Hari do it

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_K2HsF8Xwk[/ame]

I asked my trainer about it (im an amateur boxer) and he said thats smart. Ive done it a few times in competition and so far no ref has said anything .. its a great move.. nobody expects you to pull their guard down and hit them

Vitor Belfort · 12-23-2011, 04:20 PM

Overeem by TKO-- better striker with a pretty solid ground game himself. Brock stand up just completely suck. I can see alistair knocking this fool out

StillWill · 12-23-2011, 04:21 PM

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I wonder how Alistair vs Brock would do under Sumo rules?

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIZwYEFe6rM[/ame]

Will Munny · 12-23-2011, 04:35 PM

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But he is a much much better striker than Carwin and Velasquez combined and look what they did to Brock. You are full of shit. Brock could win via ground and pound decision or T/KO but it won't be easy and won't be within the first 15 seconds.

The fight starts on the feet and that is were Overeem has an overwhelming advantage. If anyone's getting TKOed quick it'll be Lesnar.

You're comparing Overoid to two NCAA All Americans. Pretty fucking stupid. If Werdum can take him down at will, so can Brock, and I willing to back up my claims with a bet.

StillWill · 12-23-2011, 05:41 PM

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You're comparing Overoid to two NCAA All Americans. Pretty fucking stupid. If Werdum can take him down at will, so can Brock, and I willing to back up my claims with a bet.

Werdum actually couldnt take overeem down, or control the grappling in the fight. So really your comment makes no sense

Will Munny · 12-23-2011, 05:46 PM

He didn't get Overoid down at all, or negate his distinct advantage with his grappling? Interesting, I must have watched a different fight, because if Werdum couldn't take him down or stop his striking with grappling, then he was obviously dominated. Maybe I'm thinking of when Overoid fought that monster wrestler Shogun?

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Will Munny Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,296 vCash: 500	Re: lesnar vs overeem!! who u got? Brock wins easily. Take down in the first 15 seconds, and then Overeem gets pounded out before the end of the first round. And OVereem is not a stronger or more skilled grappler than Mir.
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Primenal Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,294 vCash: 1000	Re: lesnar vs overeem!! who u got? Reem just needs to land one shot... Any shot.... Whether it be a punch, kick, a knee perhaps... Any will do. If he doesn't quickly though I'd be interested in seeing Brock trying to wrestle him down. Just interested to see how strong Reem actually is, and see how he reacts to getting taken down/ trying to be took down by somebody like Brock.
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Vitor Belfort Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: USA Posts: 11,712 vCash: 1000	Re: lesnar vs overeem!! who u got? Overeem by TKO-- better striker with a pretty solid ground game himself. Brock stand up just completely suck. I can see alistair knocking this fool out
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12-23-2011, 05:46 PM	#30
Will Munny Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,296 vCash: 500	Re: lesnar vs overeem!! who u got? He didn't get Overoid down at all, or negate his distinct advantage with his grappling? Interesting, I must have watched a different fight, because if Werdum couldn't take him down or stop his striking with grappling, then he was obviously dominated. Maybe I'm thinking of when Overoid fought that monster wrestler Shogun?
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