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Old 12-31-2011, 03:42 AM   #31
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I'm not arguing with you there, but that shouldnt take away from some of the wars we got to enjoy. You're making threads slating the PRIDE fanboys by using the unsavoury aspects of that org, and yeah they annoy me too, but you're also making yourself look ignorant by point blank refusing to respect the guys that came from there. ****, Hendo and Shogun gave us the best fight I've ever seen just a few weeks back and both those guys were PRIDE vets, so your point about PRIDE fighters being exposed in the UFC is totally invalid and makes you look dumb. Loads of those fighters were the real deal.
He's never even seen any of the PRIDE fights. Why are you wasting your time with a guy that only started watching MMA last week and makes threads for kicks?
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Old 12-31-2011, 03:44 AM   #32
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Pride is part of MMA's heritage. That's like saying we should forget about UFC 1 - 21 because they happened so many years ago.
The problem with MMA is the uber fickle nature of the fan base. Anything more than a day ago they have no interest in. Once upon a time PRIDE was the BEST Org on the planet. That time has passed and now its the UFC's turn. One day the same will happen to the UFC and thus is the circle of life.
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Old 12-31-2011, 04:21 AM   #33
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The obvious comparison if we are doing where are they now type shit is to compare the UFC dominators from the PRIDE time

Randy Couture (retired, lost to PRIDEs Big Nog under UFC rules)
Tim Sylvia (No longer in the UFC, lost to former PRIDE HW champ Fedor in about 30 seconds)
Andrei Arlovski (no longer in the UFC, has lost to PRIDE HWs Fedor and Kharitonov since leaving the UFC)
Tito Ortiz (Still plodding on, recently beaten up by PRIDEs Little Nog, very few recent wins)
Chuck Liddell (Retired, lost to Rampage, beat Wanderlei and lost to Shogun in his battles with PRIDE guys under UFC rules)
Rich Franklin (got killed twice by PRIDE fighter Anderson Silva, beat Wanderlei and lost to Dan Henderson)
Evan Tanner (Unfortunately we will never know)
Matt Hughes (down the pecking order, beat former PRIDE guy Renzo Gracie)
Georges St Pierre (One of the best fighters in the world, hasn't come into contact with ex PRIDE fighters)
BJ Penn (Maybe retired, beat Gomi when they were both prime)
Jens Pulver (losing on regional shows)

So yeah, that's what the UFC headliners who were around when PRIDE was a big deal are up to.
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Old 12-31-2011, 04:30 AM   #34
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The obvious comparison if we are doing where are they now type shit is to compare the UFC dominators from the PRIDE time

Randy Couture (retired, lost to PRIDEs Big Nog under UFC rules)
Tim Sylvia (No longer in the UFC, lost to former PRIDE HW champ Fedor in about 30 seconds)
Andrei Arlovski (no longer in the UFC, has lost to PRIDE HWs Fedor and Kharitonov since leaving the UFC)
Tito Ortiz (Still plodding on, recently beaten up by PRIDEs Little Nog, very few recent wins)
Chuck Liddell (Retired, lost to Rampage, beat Wanderlei and lost to Shogun in his battles with PRIDE guys under UFC rules)
Rich Franklin (got killed twice by PRIDE fighter Anderson Silva, beat Wanderlei and lost to Dan Henderson)
Evan Tanner (Unfortunately we will never know)
Matt Hughes (down the pecking order, beat former PRIDE guy Renzo Gracie)
Georges St Pierre (One of the best fighters in the world, hasn't come into contact with ex PRIDE fighters)
BJ Penn (Maybe retired, beat Gomi when they were both prime)
Jens Pulver (losing on regional shows)

So yeah, that's what the UFC headliners who were around when PRIDE was a big deal are up to.
Why'd you have to go and do that!!!!
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Old 12-31-2011, 04:41 AM   #35
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In August it'll be 5 years since PRIDE last put on an event.

Its ruleset is done.

Its champions have come off roids and been humbled.

Its pro-wrestling way of doing business is badly outdated.

Its demise has left Japanese MMA dead in the water.

In short, it is finished. It's over. And its legacy is all but meaningless in modern MMA.

Can we stop pretending that there is still a legitimate divide in the sport, and just move on into an exciting new era for MMA?

I mean, it seems to me that hating on the UFC at this point is pretty much the equivalent of hating on boxing in the Dempsey era because the fighters wore gloves and had a set number of strictly-timed rounds scheduled.

Do you know what the 'Classic Forum' on this site is for?

If you get tired of people talking about MMA from 5-10 years ago, you would shrivel up and die if you realized there was an entire forum dedicated to boxing featuring fighters such as these:

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