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Old 02-06-2012, 06:05 PM   #1516
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You stoned again lol?

Yeah I agree that some guys don't look good on film. Some guys don't have a good resume despite looking very good. Some guys never hit the top despite looking good on film and having a good resume.

I like to judge fighters on a mixture of the 3.

H2h is too subjective for me to be comfortable, seeing how effective a man was on his best night is much more reasonable to judge.
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Old 02-06-2012, 06:08 PM   #1517
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No I'm not stoned for the first time in over a year! Don't risk it out here mate!
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Old 02-06-2012, 06:54 PM   #1518
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enitez is amazing against Cervantes
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Old 02-07-2012, 03:55 AM   #1519
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Why the edit?

Please do, and thanks
I edited that post because i hadn't informed you that i might have that fight. I actually don't/can't find it though. I found 3 rounds on a video which is a bit bizarre i'm going to get it transferred across if I can't find the fight itself.
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:33 AM   #1520
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the Rodriguez Benvenuti bout was far from either man at their best imo.Minter is a good later comparison to Benvenuti, though Nino was more athletic and a more consistent disciplined ring-general(and not liable to bleed at the first flush punch)


I don't see why head to head is so dodgy for some.In the end it's just an opinion of how good and effective you think a fighter is.
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Old 02-07-2012, 12:16 PM   #1521
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the Rodriguez Benvenuti bout was far from either man at their best imo.Minter is a good later comparison to Benvenuti, though Nino was more athletic and a more consistent disciplined ring-general(and not liable to bleed at the first flush punch)


I don't see why head to head is so dodgy for some.In the end it's just an opinion of how good and effective you think a fighter is.
When did nino ever look better?

H2h is fine I just don't wanna base any rankings on it.
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Old 02-07-2012, 12:26 PM   #1522
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I think it would be easier to ask when did he look worse.uglier middleweight title fights are harder to find than that one.

If you just want one Nino fight to watch that will be easy enough to get hold of, i'd go with the first Griffith fight.
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Old 02-07-2012, 01:24 PM   #1523
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Its a real shame LMR never got a title shot earlier at Middleweight he was tearing some good Middles apart. Him vs Tiger would have been a near toss up IMO
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Old 02-07-2012, 03:34 PM   #1524
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Lora, would you say the emile fight is nino's peak performance?
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Old 02-07-2012, 05:16 PM   #1525
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I wouldn't, Griffith nearly sparks him.
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Old 02-07-2012, 05:32 PM   #1526
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Griffith could punch though, and Benvenuti goes onto win it dosent he? (The first one if I'm minding right)
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Old 02-07-2012, 06:53 PM   #1527
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Lovely shot from Emile.
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Old 02-08-2012, 08:00 PM   #1528
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Watched Joe Frazier vs Ron Stander, Joe wins via 4th rd TKO. Ron gave it his all, rocked Joe a couple of times with his big right. George Chuvalo is one of the best commentaters in the sport. Three things stand out, Fraziers razor sharp left hook, the ring looked really small and everyone seemed to have the worst sideburns and comb overs ever. having been a part of that great era of HW boxing I can LMAO at this.
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Old 02-08-2012, 10:44 PM   #1529
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Mark Kaylor KO5 Roy Gumbs

It's a wight old fashioned pwoper Bwitish and Commenwealf showdawn innit???????

And maybe Kaylor's best performance. He comes out dominating with a good stiff jab and by the fourth has a lot of different punches working for him against a drilled competent banger in Gumbs. In fourth he gets punched all around the ring by said banger who looks on the verge of what would have been a slight upset by a defending champion when he dropped Kaylor on accumliation. Kaylor looked like he knew where he was to me, but it was still a surprise to see him ralley so forcefully in round 5.

A right-hand happy Kaylor scored over and again and Gumbs just started to break down, cut, suddenly dis-interested looking. He had a distant expression in his eyes a full minute before he was forced to all fours for the second attrition knockdown of the fight. It was one of those stoppages where the beaten fighter gets up right on 10, gets waved off and doesn't complain. I think he had his heart totally broken by a guy who took his best then came back with better. Good s****.
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Old 02-08-2012, 11:37 PM   #1530
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Frank Cedano KO7 Charlie Magri

Some beltinig moments in commentary from Carpenter here.

"Magri lands a right hand on Cerdano's...Chinese looking face...Cerdano peers out at him through slanty eyes."

Fabulous fight. Magri won the first two rounds barely but had all the head-movement beaten out of him in the third. You can tell when a fighter never settles to head-movement properly because it's something they can only do when they are fresh and/or unhurt. As soon as Magri gets hurt he forgets his head-movement. But there's a telling moment in the third where he shucks left, then right, bobs up and gets jabbed on his face. Cerdano just found him, and when he did those jab-straight combos couldn't miss. He added a winging right hook as the fight progressed and the trailing uppercut for the first KD was a beaut.

Not the southpaw curse, just Magri getting beaten up by a tougher, bigger fighter.

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