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Old 03-18-2012, 02:54 PM   #16
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Willie Pastrano

#4 Challenger

Age 22
Height 6' 0"
Weight 188 lbs.
44-5-5 (10 KO's)

He is the fastest heavyweight afoot, this New Orleanian with sullen good looks and
elaborately curled hair. And he can most surely travel, bounce, dance, slide and glide.
Nimbleness and grace are his preoccupations.

Pastrano can jab prettily - his chief weapon - he has quick hands, but is, at best,
a mediocre puncher. This is due, perhaps, to his constantly being on his toes and therefore,
not sufficiently set to deliver a jarring blow. He is a guileful evader,
takes a punch well and rallies nicely when hit.

Pastrano looked sluggish in his November bout with Willi Besmanoff.
He did look better in his October bout in London,
when he decisioned one of the top British fighters in Dick Richardson.
A June decision loss to Roy Harris has not hurt his cause.

Other wins include a 1956 decision over the previously undefeated northwest
heavyweight prospect Pat McMurty, and earlier victories over name fighters, Rex Layne,
Paddy Young and Joey Maxim.

The drawback here is, Pastrano has no real power, and it does not look like he can
develop any more natural strength.
if you had to dig for a flaw..that would be the only one..but especially for a heavyweight...as a lightheavy, it was no more of a drawback than it was for Ali as a heavy. Pastrano was a gifted boxer and big power was irrelevent.
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I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but Machen is probably generally overrated today. He managed to beat the over-the-hill or never-were guys on the way up, but his record against top men is depressingly consistent:

Zora Folley (2), Johansson, Liston, Harold Johnson, Cleveland Williams, Patterson, Terrell

He didn't win a fight against any of them. He could be counted on to come up short when the chips were down.
I dig Machen too!
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Fast Eddie Machen,,,,,,,


Regarded boxing as a job,,,,,,,,,a way to make a living.

Being a World Champion wasn't his priority.

Still had enough good wins and talent to be rated in the Top 5 from
1957 thru 1965.
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Nino Valdes

#5 Challenger

Age 33
Height 6' 3"
Weight 210 lbs.
41-14-2 (31 KO's)

Geraldo Ramos Poncaino Valdes, called Nino, the 33 year-old, 6' 3" Cuban with
skin hue of a fine havana wrapper, was once the #1 ranked heavyweight challenger
to Rocky Marciano's title (August 1953 thru May 1955)

A series of defeats from mid-1955 thru 1956 depreciated his stock, with 6 losses in 8 fights
in order to; Archie Moore, Bob Satterfield, Bob Baker, Eddie Machen twice and
Zora Folley. He has regained Top 5 status with a streak of 6 straight wins, including
a February first round knock-out over Joe Erskine, the British Champion who was
undefeated and ranked #4, and who was in line for a possible title chance against
Floyd Patterson.

Valdes, somewhat cumbrous, is a skillful boxer for his mass and has a fine right hand.
He prefers to counterpunch, but there is a controversy about the size of his heart.

1958 will most likely be Nino's final year for locking down a chance at the title. He
has just enough flaws, to be a safe opponent, but offers size and a right hand that
makes him somewhat dangerous. Valdes needs one more good win, and he will
most likely be back in line as a possible opponent for Patterson.

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