Klitschko - Tyson

[Boilermaker]

Originally Posted by jacklondon

Athletes in all sports today are bigger and stronger and break old records, but you pretend that boxing is exempt.

Except billiards. I imagine any sport that used to be popular and professional but no longer is would be the same. As opposed to sports where they have always been professional. It might also be interesting to see what would happen to modern athletes if the equipment and conditions went backwards as it happens nin boxing where Gloves are now much bigger, surfaces grippy and soft, shoes dont even have spikes anymore. It would be good to see the times of a modern cyclist if he had to ride a malvern star or Usain bolt running down a grass track with bear feet and no blocks. It would bring things back to the field quite a bit.

[KINGOFTHE1ROUND]

Originally Posted by Sangria

Tyson would completely cave in Vitlay's ribs, then feast on them for dinner.

and his liver and when Vitali leaned over for a second because of the pain,Mike would smash his chin which I think is overrated anyway. I said it,Vitali's chin is overrated.

[jacklondon]

Originally Posted by Boilermaker

Except billiards. I imagine any sport that used to be popular and professional but no longer is would be the same. As opposed to sports where they have always been professional. It might also be interesting to see what would happen to modern athletes if the equipment and conditions went backwards as it happens nin boxing where Gloves are now much bigger, surfaces grippy and soft, shoes dont even have spikes anymore. It would be good to see the times of a modern cyclist if he had to ride a malvern star or Usain bolt running down a grass track with bear feet and no blocks. It would bring things back to the field quite a bit.

Good points - but in heavyweight boxing there are other factors, especially unlimited size allowed, and years ago very large men who were also top athletes were very rare, most heavyweights weighing in well under 200. Also the most salient factor, which they deliberately ignore in places like this, was that back in the days of their hyped up American "world champions" Russians and eastern Europeans, as well as others who compete now, such as black Africans, were not participating. They are now, and the results are very obvious.

But you can't even engage in intelligent debate on a dumbed down place like this as you just get 95% nitwits calling names and chanting their mantras, like what you see above.

And as per the greatly increased size of modern heavyweights, boxing is long long overdue for additional weight classes up on top - and less weight classes down on the bottom for the little squirts who have silly classifications separtaed by 2 or 3 or 4 measley pounds. But that falls on deaf ears too, because it's not just boxing forums that are overun with nitwits, it's boxing management as well, nitwits and gangsters.

[jacklondon]

"It would be good to see the times of a modern cyclist if he had to ride a malvern star or Usain bolt running down a grass track with bear feet and no blocks."


A subject also of interest to me, because as well as boxing, I also dabbled at one time in biclycle racing - Century Road Club, NY, NY, founded 1891.

[bigjake]

Originally Posted by jacklondon

Hype jobs like Ali and Tyson - that these clowns keep going on about vis-a-vis the amazing Doctor K brothers, the greatest heavyweights of all time - need to have an asterisk next to their names. They never even fought one single eastern European or Russian, or black African or Cuban expat either. These have to be the same clowns who were trashing these forums up for years about how Gaye would destroy WK.

ali was a hype job you say,i think you just don't like the man.hes 1 of the top 3 fighters of all time live with it.....

[sinol]

Originally Posted by Azzer85

Tyson cant reach Vitalis chin

...................but nailing the body he would

[fists of fury]

The height difference doesn't seem as great in the above picture. Tyson could definitely reach that chin.

If Vitali beat Mike, it's because he's a better fighter, not because he's bigger.

If the 'size uber alles' argument is taken to it's logical conclusion, Valuev should by rights be the best heavyweight in the world.

[fists of fury]

Originally Posted by mcvey

There is a possibility that Tyson may have slipped up and injured himself on the trail of shit that would have issued from Wlad's shorts.

[Foreman Hook]

Originally Posted by Azzer85

Tyson cant reach Vitalis chin

FOR REALZ???

[Bummy Davis]

Vitali would be a tough fight for Tyson because he is durable and has late power but would it be enough to overcome an early lead or turn out like Tyson/Holyfield? while I think Vlad may be vulnerable to Tyson's power and would make Tyson the favorite...an alert and cautious Vlad may be a very difficult fighter for Tyson to overcome but watch Mike EARLY WITH HIS EARLY ONSLAUGHT and how does Vlad handle it by being very defensive with footwork and jabs or trying to mix...Mixing early could be a disaster but cautious until the 8-12th rounds favors Vlad but Tyson always dangerous until he gives up mentally

[SenorRamirez]

wlad ? wlad have no chance agains tyson,tyson wins by Tko in round one

[Azzer85]

Originally Posted by Foreman Hook

FOR REALZ???

I was being sarcastic

Vitalis chin is severly overrated.

Tyson has a field day with Vitali, who IMO is a quitter. A bigger quitter than Tyson ever was

[frankenfrank]

Originally Posted by bigjake

ali was a hype job you say,i think you just don't like the man.hes 1 of the top 3 fighters of all time live with it.....

What a ridiculous comment .

Originally Posted by sinol

...................but nailing the body he would

He might have tried , and paid d price by taking shots 2 his own head .

Originally Posted by fists of fury

The height difference doesn't seem as great in the above picture. Tyson could definitely reach that chin.

If Vitali beat Mike, it's because he's a better fighter, not because he's bigger.

If the 'size uber alles' argument is taken to it's logical conclusion, Valuev should by rights be the best heavyweight in the world.

No way Vitali is better than Tyson , but he would have been 2 tall and unreachable 4 tyson who wears high heels in that pic . Valuev was definitely 1 of d least beatable heavyweights in history , even if not 1 of d best on a p4p sense . That being said it is hard 2 know how a 6'5" Valuev would have performed .