John Ruiz vs Thomas Hearns - Page 2

DaveK · 03-23-2012, 11:22 PM

Ruiz can make an ugly fight with anyone and survive just about anyone... Not known as a puncher, he still decked Holyfield...

As much as I love Hearns, Ruiz is too big and too strong. I doubt he can be the boss in there as much as it would take to win a decision...

red cobra · 03-24-2012, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MAG1965

Ruiz was not that good. Tommy was a welt to 175 pounder, but Ruiz? Hearns took a durable guy in Andries and made him limited and won easily. It is about quality and who they are fighting. Ruiz did not use his size which is why Jones and Toney fought him. Tommy would not beat a guy like Lennox or Klithcko or Tyson.

He wasn't as bad as you're making him out to be either.

MadcapMaxie · 03-24-2012, 06:21 AM

Tommy would make a good fight but would succumb eventually, his chin was shaky at Middle let alone Heavy.

Tin Man Waldo · 03-24-2012, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DaveK

Ruiz can make an ugly fight with anyone and survive just about anyone... Not known as a puncher, he still decked Holyfield...

yeah fucking shot-to-fucking-shit rancid rotting decrepit ancient zombie remains of a man who once was a great boxer called Holyfield was decked by Ruiz it means jackshit as the same shot-to-shit Holyfield was stopped and dropped by ex-middle James Toney and this proves shot Holyfield does not have a great iron chin like he used to

that Tyson who Holyfield beat-up would of bounced that shot pile of diarrhea Holyfield who Ruiz fought off the canvas like a bouncy ball

Stevie G · 03-24-2012, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by he grant

Ruiz would wear him down and stop him ..

True. A step too far for the Hitman.

Hookie · 03-24-2012, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Seamus

I have Ruiz in my top 15 ATG heavies.

Wow, really?

Hookie · 03-24-2012, 12:20 PM

In terms of prime vs. prime H2H... I think these guys were better than Ruiz-

Ali, Holmes, Holyfield, Foreman, Louis, Marciano, Frazier, Tyson, Lewis, Bowe, Klitschko, V. Klitschko, Charles, Walcott, Johnson, Norton, Witherspoon, M. Spinks, Byrd, Moorer, Moore...

Toney was better... so was Ibeabuchi, Tua, Roy Jones Jr, and several others.

Hookie · 03-24-2012, 12:20 PM

I still doubt Hearns would beat him though! I am a huge Hearns fan btw.

Hookie · 03-24-2012, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tin Man Waldo

yeah fucking shot-to-fucking-shit rancid rotting decrepit ancient zombie remains of a man who once was a great boxer called Holyfield was decked by Ruiz it means jackshit as the same shot-to-shit Holyfield was stopped and dropped by ex-middle James Toney and this proves shot Holyfield does not have a great iron chin like he used to

that Tyson who Holyfield beat-up would of bounced that shot pile of diarrhea Holyfield who Ruiz fought off the canvas like a bouncy ball

The CW version of Holyfield who beat Qawi (WSD15) in just his 12th pro fight would have stopped any version of Ruiz IMO.

DaveK · 03-24-2012, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tin Man Waldo

yeah fucking shot-to-fucking-shit rancid rotting decrepit ancient zombie remains of a man who once was a great boxer called Holyfield was decked by Ruiz it means jackshit as the same shot-to-shit Holyfield was stopped and dropped by ex-middle James Toney and this proves shot Holyfield does not have a great iron chin like he used to

that Tyson who Holyfield beat-up would of bounced that shot pile of diarrhea Holyfield who Ruiz fought off the canvas like a bouncy ball

I appreciate you passion, but you're making a lot of assumptions of my view.

I agree with all of your counter points, but they have little to do with my point...

Holyfield could be dropped, even in his prime, and we all know chin is one of the last things to go.

Seamus · 03-24-2012, 12:32 PM

As of this morning Ruiz passed Joe Frazier in my all time HW rankings!

Hookie · 03-24-2012, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Seamus

As of this morning Ruiz passed Joe Frazier in my all time HW rankings!

Damn, it really is a cold day in hell lol

Body Head · 03-24-2012, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Seamus

As of this morning Ruiz passed Joe Frazier in my all time HW rankings!

same

Muchmoore · 03-24-2012, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Hookie

Wow, really?

Open your eyes to the truth my friend.

Nightcrawler · 03-24-2012, 06:13 PM

roy jones sr said it about buster mathis...too much meat on that man.

ruiz is too big and hearns was not a massive light heavyweight. just too much size for hearns to deal with and he was not mobile enough to pot shot like jones did

03-23-2012, 11:22 PM	#16
DaveK Vicious & Malicious ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,858 vCash: 1000	Re: John Ruiz vs Thomas Hearns Ruiz can make an ugly fight with anyone and survive just about anyone... Not known as a puncher, he still decked Holyfield... As much as I love Hearns, Ruiz is too big and too strong. I doubt he can be the boss in there as much as it would take to win a decision...
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03-24-2012, 06:21 AM	#18
MadcapMaxie Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 2,767 vCash: 500	Re: John Ruiz vs Thomas Hearns Tommy would make a good fight but would succumb eventually, his chin was shaky at Middle let alone Heavy.
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03-24-2012, 12:20 PM	#22
Hookie Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Greencastle, PA Posts: 1,970 vCash: 500	Re: John Ruiz vs Thomas Hearns In terms of prime vs. prime H2H... I think these guys were better than Ruiz- Ali, Holmes, Holyfield, Foreman, Louis, Marciano, Frazier, Tyson, Lewis, Bowe, Klitschko, V. Klitschko, Charles, Walcott, Johnson, Norton, Witherspoon, M. Spinks, Byrd, Moorer, Moore... Toney was better... so was Ibeabuchi, Tua, Roy Jones Jr, and several others.
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03-24-2012, 12:20 PM	#23
Hookie Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Greencastle, PA Posts: 1,970 vCash: 500	Re: John Ruiz vs Thomas Hearns I still doubt Hearns would beat him though! I am a huge Hearns fan btw.
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03-24-2012, 12:32 PM	#26
Seamus Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Lisboa, Portugal Posts: 10,120 vCash: 1000	Re: John Ruiz vs Thomas Hearns As of this morning Ruiz passed Joe Frazier in my all time HW rankings!
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03-24-2012, 06:13 PM	#30
Nightcrawler Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Canada!!!! Posts: 2,305 vCash: 500	Re: John Ruiz vs Thomas Hearns roy jones sr said it about buster mathis...too much meat on that man. ruiz is too big and hearns was not a massive light heavyweight. just too much size for hearns to deal with and he was not mobile enough to pot shot like jones did
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