Sergio Martinez vs a selection of yesteryears MW's.

[sweet_scientist]

Originally Posted by lufcrazy

I'm caught on this one. Martinez fights similar to a southpaw roy jones.

I think martinez would rack up an early lead but hopkins would eventually begin to time him.

Close fight. Maybe a draw.

I'm a bhop hater and even I think that's ridiculous.

[Lester1583]

Originally Posted by lufcrazy

I think martinez would rack up an early lead but hopkins would eventually begin to time him.

I'm not even sure if Martinez would have racked up an early lead given the fact that young Hop started faster and was much more active than the 2000's version of him.

[red cobra]

Originally Posted by lufcrazy

Do you get off on putting words in people's mouths or something?

I never said it didn't include tiger. There are a lot of guys I could have included but I just picked 12 of them.

If it bothers you that much, make your own thread

Your logic defeats me...just make a better list next time and think it through better

[lufcrazy]

Originally Posted by red cobra

Your logic defeats me...just make a better list next time and think it through better

What logic is that?

[lufcrazy]

Originally Posted by lufcrazy

I'm caught on this one. Martinez fights similar to a southpaw roy jones.

I think martinez would rack up an early lead but hopkins would eventually begin to time him.

Close fight. Maybe a draw.

this what happens when I post whilst pissed.

If matt could time martinez and catch him with the straight right, it's almost certain that hopkins would.

I had matt winning the fight going into the tenth and I think he was mega effective that night.

Hopkins could actually take martinez to school. I suppose martinez can step up a gear and take some rounds on workrate but hopkins should have his number.

This is my sober (surprisingly not hung over ) opinion so if ya think it's bs i've no excuse to hide behind

[Lester1583]

Originally Posted by lufcrazy

I suppose martinez can step up a gear and take some rounds on workrate

Hop had an excellent stamina in his prime.

Martinez has no advantage over prime Hop in the workrate area.

[lufcrazy]

Originally Posted by Lester1583

Hop had an excellent stamina in his prime.

Martinez has no advantage over prime Hop in the workrate area.

Hopkins has amazing stamina even now

When martinez steps up he throws am awful lot of accurate hard eye catching power shots.

I think hopkins wins 10-2 or 9-3.

So far i'm happy that robinson, hopkins and apostoli beat him.

[Lester1583]

Originally Posted by lufcrazy

Hopkins has amazing stamina even now

Nah.

He just hides the lack of it by rolling on the floor when he needs a break

[lufcrazy]

Originally Posted by Lester1583

Nah.

He just hides the lack of it by rolling on the floor when he needs a break

A man of age 46 has no right outpunching a prime jean pascal, never mind finishing stronger down the stretch.

[PowerPuncher]

Originally Posted by lufcrazy

this what happens when I post whilst pissed.

If matt could time martinez and catch him with the straight right, it's almost certain that hopkins would.

I had matt winning the fight going into the tenth and I think he was mega effective that night.

Hopkins could actually take martinez to school. I suppose martinez can step up a gear and take some rounds on workrate but hopkins should have his number.

This is my sober (surprisingly not hung over ) opinion so if ya think it's bs i've no excuse to hide behind

If you thought Macklin was ahead going into the 10th I'd contend you were again pissed watching that fight

Martinez would give Hopkins problems plenty of problems in the first 4 rounds, Vanderpool built up an early lead against Hopkins too.

[lufcrazy]

You live in the uk, you'll know what time it was on.

Early hours of sunday morning, damn right I was pissed

[Nightcrawler]

Originally Posted by PowerPuncher

If you thought Macklin was ahead going into the 10th I'd contend you were again pissed watching that fight

Martinez would give Hopkins problems plenty of problems in the first 4 rounds, Vanderpool built up an early lead against Hopkins too.

i agree and i see it as closer than lufcrazy. martinez has plenty of holes in his game but if we look at hopkin's loses on film, they are all to athletically gifted individuals who used physical advantages to either narrowly edge a win (taylor x2, calzaghe) or prevent hopkins technical brilliance from becoming a factor (jones). regardless of whether you feel he won or lost these (I gave taylor both by 2 points, calzaghe by 1) they all troubled him with speed, movement and workrate. martinez has the qualities to put on at least a respectable showing against hopkins

[lora]

Martinez could certainly give lot of trouble to the older middleweight Hopkins circa DLH-Taylor fights, but that Hop is not a great middleweight anymore.Even though i'm not a fan of the ancient light-heavy version either, that weightjump gave him a new lease of life for a while....the version that closed out his middleweight days was Hopkins at his lowest level since being a novice.At times it was like watching weight drained latter reign Eubank during some of his lesser performances...

Better to look at mid-late nineties Hopkins against Martinez.

[Nightcrawler]

Originally Posted by lora

Martinez could certainly give lot of trouble to the older middleweight Hopkins circa DLH-Taylor fights, but that Hop is not a great middleweight anymore.Even though i'm not a fan of the ancient light-heavy version either, that weightjump gave him a new lease of life for a while....the version that closed out his middleweight days was Hopkins at his lowest level since being a novice.At times it was like watching weight drained latter reign Eubank during some of his lesser performances...

Better to look at mid-late nineties Hopkins against Martinez.

the hopkins of the lipsey fight then? more athletic, little less crafty. certainly a much more entertaining fight. that right hand lead was still present which would likely be his best weapon against sergio

[lora]

Yeah, it's true that he wasn't as crafty in his physical prime.He didn't really learn to spoil well consistently until he got old.Something that doesn't come up often enough when Hopkins is talked about for my liking.People sometimes tend to combine the two versions together(me included).