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View Poll Results: Who punches harder?
Ingo 13 30.23%
Sonny 28 65.12%
Punching power is equal between these two 2 4.65%
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Old 03-24-2012, 11:04 AM   #31
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Shame to INGO! As Liston much appraised for fight HIM'S leftovers.
Shame to boxing fans.

It's ok 'ears, this is a nice realistic comparison between two guys of the same era against the same opponents

Noone's comparing esb liston with zeus, this is a normal acceptable comparison that you can take seriously
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Old 03-24-2012, 11:09 AM   #32
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Shame to boxing fans.

It's ok 'ears, this is a nice realistic comparison between two guys of the same era against the same opponents

Noone's comparing esb liston with zeus, this is a normal acceptable comparison that you can take seriously
This time I shad take your face at your connection, Lufcrazy. This time I shad take your face at your connection, friendy.
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Old 03-24-2012, 11:42 AM   #33
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Sonny got in trouble with the law on June 12, 1961, in Philadelphia.

The Pennsylvania Boxing Commision immediately pulled his boxing license.

George Katz, Sonny's manager at the time had negotiated a
deal to fight Ingo in Philadelphia or New York, scheduled for September, October or November.

In August 1961, they were still trying to save the fight.

But the promoters pulled out, as too much bad press was following
Sonny.
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Old 03-24-2012, 12:01 PM   #34
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In September, a new promoter, Bill Fugazy got involved, and tried to re-schedule
the fight for December, in Canada.

Sonny was running out of places to fight, as nearly every Boxing Commission in
America had pulled his boxing license.
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Old 03-24-2012, 12:03 PM   #35
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They both could punch very hard.

Ingo stopped Machen in 1 in 1958. Liston beat him (W12) in 1960.

Ingo stopped Patterson in 3 in 1959. Liston stopped him in 1 in 1962 and in 1 in 1963. Patterson also stopped Ingo... in 5 in 1960 and in 6 in 1961.

Ingo also stopped Henry Cooper among others. Liston also stopped Folley and Cleveland Williams x2 among others.

They were similar in height, Liston had a longer reach and was about 10-15 Lbs. heavier.

Liston has the better resume and knocked out more big name fighters.

I'll give Liston the nod here but Ingo could crack.
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Old 03-24-2012, 03:50 PM   #36
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I do believe ingo had a better 1 punch knockout than liston.
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Old 03-24-2012, 06:47 PM   #37
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I do believe ingo had a better 1 punch knockout than liston.
Perhaps than anyone.

If Ingo is alowed one punch, then he is dangerous.
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Old 03-24-2012, 06:51 PM   #38
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Perhaps than anyone.

If Ingo is alowed one punch, then he is dangerous.
it's a bold claim. it looks great and his timing is fantastic. but he didn't get the opportunity to prove it against enough great fighters. with all due respect, patterson's chin is at best questionable and destroying him doesn't propel you to the top of my list
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Old 03-24-2012, 07:04 PM   #39
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it's a bold claim. it looks great and his timing is fantastic. but he didn't get the opportunity to prove it against enough great fighters. with all due respect, patterson's chin is at best questionable and destroying him doesn't propel you to the top of my list
On the flip side of the coin:

What other fighter ever did so much, with only one good punch?
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On the flip side of the coin:

What other fighter ever did so much, with only one good punch?
joe frazier
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Old 03-24-2012, 09:30 PM   #41
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joe frazier
Frazier had one ATG punch and many, many good punches with it. His punch diversity is the most astoundingly underrated attribute. Good day, sir. I say 'good day'!
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Frazier had one ATG punch and many, many good punches with it. His punch diversity is the most astoundingly underrated attribute. Good day, sir. I say 'good day'!
you raise a good point. let's see what happens when i google image "joe frazier right hand"...

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**** Biff.
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Lets look for the Albert Westphal interview.

Westphal was Ingemar Johansson's sparring partner in March of 1960

He was Ingo's replacement, when Ingo pulled out of his scheduled December 1961
match with Sonny Liston.
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you raise a good point. let's see what happens when i google image "joe frazier right hand"...

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Caxapian Google? They're never supporting of conspiracies against hands.

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**** Biff.
Who wouldn't?
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