Harder puncher: Ingo or Sonny - Page 3

lufcrazy · 03-24-2012, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Boxed Ears

Shame to INGO! As Liston much appraised for fight HIM'S leftovers.

Shame to boxing fans.

It's ok 'ears, this is a nice realistic comparison between two guys of the same era against the same opponents

Noone's comparing esb liston with zeus, this is a normal acceptable comparison that you can take seriously

Boxed Ears · 03-24-2012, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by lufcrazy

Shame to boxing fans.

It's ok 'ears, this is a nice realistic comparison between two guys of the same era against the same opponents

Noone's comparing esb liston with zeus, this is a normal acceptable comparison that you can take seriously

This time I shad take your face at your connection, Lufcrazy. This time I shad take your face at your connection, friendy.

hobgob21 · 03-24-2012, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Senor Pepe'

Sonny got in trouble with the law on June 12, 1961, in Philadelphia.

The Pennsylvania Boxing Commision immediately pulled his boxing license.

George Katz, Sonny's manager at the time had negotiated a
deal to fight Ingo in Philadelphia or New York, scheduled for September, October or November.

In August 1961, they were still trying to save the fight.

But the promoters pulled out, as too much bad press was following
Sonny.

Thanks.

Senor Pepe' · 03-24-2012, 12:01 PM

In September, a new promoter, Bill Fugazy got involved, and tried to re-schedule
the fight for December, in Canada.

Sonny was running out of places to fight, as nearly every Boxing Commission in
America had pulled his boxing license.

Hookie · 03-24-2012, 12:03 PM

They both could punch very hard.

Ingo stopped Machen in 1 in 1958. Liston beat him (W12) in 1960.

Ingo stopped Patterson in 3 in 1959. Liston stopped him in 1 in 1962 and in 1 in 1963. Patterson also stopped Ingo... in 5 in 1960 and in 6 in 1961.

Ingo also stopped Henry Cooper among others. Liston also stopped Folley and Cleveland Williams x2 among others.

They were similar in height, Liston had a longer reach and was about 10-15 Lbs. heavier.

Liston has the better resume and knocked out more big name fighters.

I'll give Liston the nod here but Ingo could crack.

lufcrazy · 03-24-2012, 03:50 PM

I do believe ingo had a better 1 punch knockout than liston.

janitor · 03-24-2012, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by lufcrazy

I do believe ingo had a better 1 punch knockout than liston.

Perhaps than anyone.

If Ingo is alowed one punch, then he is dangerous.

Nightcrawler · 03-24-2012, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by janitor

Perhaps than anyone.

If Ingo is alowed one punch, then he is dangerous.

it's a bold claim. it looks great and his timing is fantastic. but he didn't get the opportunity to prove it against enough great fighters. with all due respect, patterson's chin is at best questionable and destroying him doesn't propel you to the top of my list

janitor · 03-24-2012, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightcrawler

it's a bold claim. it looks great and his timing is fantastic. but he didn't get the opportunity to prove it against enough great fighters. with all due respect, patterson's chin is at best questionable and destroying him doesn't propel you to the top of my list

On the flip side of the coin:

What other fighter ever did so much, with only one good punch?

Nightcrawler · 03-24-2012, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by janitor

On the flip side of the coin:

What other fighter ever did so much, with only one good punch?

joe frazier

Boxed Ears · 03-24-2012, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightcrawler

joe frazier

Frazier had one ATG punch and many, many good punches with it.

His punch diversity is the most astoundingly underrated attribute. Good day, sir. I say 'good day'!

Nightcrawler · 03-24-2012, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Boxed Ears

Frazier had one ATG punch and many, many good punches with it.

His punch diversity is the most astoundingly underrated attribute. Good day, sir. I say 'good day'!

you raise a good point. let's see what happens when i google image "joe frazier right hand"...

the cobra · 03-24-2012, 10:15 PM

Fuck Biff.

Senor Pepe' · 03-24-2012, 11:37 PM

Lets look for the Albert Westphal interview.

Westphal was Ingemar Johansson's sparring partner in March of 1960

He was Ingo's replacement, when Ingo pulled out of his scheduled December 1961
match with Sonny Liston.

Boxed Ears · 03-25-2012, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightcrawler

you raise a good point. let's see what happens when i google image "joe frazier right hand"...

Caxapian Google? They're never supporting of conspiracies against hands.

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Originally Posted by the cobra

Fuck Biff.

Who wouldn't?

View Poll Results: Who punches harder?
Ingo	13	30.95%
Sonny	27	64.29%
Punching power is equal between these two	2	4.76%
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03-24-2012, 12:01 PM	#34
Senor Pepe' Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,734 vCash: 500	Re: Harder puncher: Ingo or Sonny In September, a new promoter, Bill Fugazy got involved, and tried to re-schedule the fight for December, in Canada. Sonny was running out of places to fight, as nearly every Boxing Commission in America had pulled his boxing license.
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03-24-2012, 12:03 PM	#35
Hookie Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Greencastle, PA Posts: 1,970 vCash: 500	Re: Harder puncher: Ingo or Sonny They both could punch very hard. Ingo stopped Machen in 1 in 1958. Liston beat him (W12) in 1960. Ingo stopped Patterson in 3 in 1959. Liston stopped him in 1 in 1962 and in 1 in 1963. Patterson also stopped Ingo... in 5 in 1960 and in 6 in 1961. Ingo also stopped Henry Cooper among others. Liston also stopped Folley and Cleveland Williams x2 among others. They were similar in height, Liston had a longer reach and was about 10-15 Lbs. heavier. Liston has the better resume and knocked out more big name fighters. I'll give Liston the nod here but Ingo could crack.
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03-24-2012, 03:50 PM	#36
lufcrazy requiescat in pace East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: England, Up North Posts: 22,711 vCash: 330	Re: Harder puncher: Ingo or Sonny I do believe ingo had a better 1 punch knockout than liston.
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03-24-2012, 10:15 PM	#43
the cobra Awesomeizationism! East Side Guru Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,991 vCash: 1000	Re: Harder puncher: Ingo or Sonny Fuck Biff.
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03-24-2012, 11:37 PM	#44
Senor Pepe' Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,734 vCash: 500	Re: Harder puncher: Ingo or Sonny Lets look for the Albert Westphal interview. Westphal was Ingemar Johansson's sparring partner in March of 1960 He was Ingo's replacement, when Ingo pulled out of his scheduled December 1961 match with Sonny Liston.
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