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Old 04-02-2012, 12:20 PM   #1
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Default Shane Mosley vs Ismael Laguna at LW

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Old 04-02-2012, 12:22 PM   #2
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Laguna may have been a smarter boxer but I think Mosley walks him down, too much strength and power while being a match for speed
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Old 04-02-2012, 12:44 PM   #3
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laguna outspeeds and out generals Shane for a convincing decision. Shane isn't walking down Ismael Laguna.
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Old 04-02-2012, 01:25 PM   #4
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Laguna was good and tricky but i give Mosley the win, Shane stronger
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Old 04-02-2012, 01:29 PM   #5
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I find it difficult picking many Lw's over Mosley.

the speed, power, chin combination is amazing.
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Old 04-02-2012, 01:43 PM   #6
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I like this match-up...I lean towards Laguna taking a nice 9-6/7-5 type decison. But in fairness, I love Laguna and have been told that I vastly over rate El Tigre Colonense.
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Old 04-03-2012, 01:06 AM   #7
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laguna outspeeds and out generals Shane for a convincing decision. Shane isn't walking down Ismael Laguna.


And in terms of defense, Laguna has the edge......Never was stopped in 75 fights facing great opposition and an offensive force like Ortiz three times....If Ortiz couldnīt, Shane wouldnīt...you can give Shane the edge in the power, but he wasnīt as good offensively as Ortiz, and thatīs the most important here IMO.....
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Old 04-03-2012, 01:08 AM   #8
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Nothing against Shane though.....he was really good and an interesting LW H2H....
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Old 04-03-2012, 01:23 AM   #9
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135lbs was where I was most underwhelmed by Mosley funnily enough. I think he came into his own at 147 and is massively overrated at 135lbs, and only managed to fight there due to 24 hour weigh in's.
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Ismael Laguna beats Shane Mosley by 8-7 in rounds, has that slight edge in skills.
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Old 10-01-2012, 06:52 PM   #11
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Would be a great fight. Mosley has the power advantage, but it will come into play only sporadically, since Laguna was so quick and slick. But Mosley has the handspeed to pile up enough points, in conjunction to getting the better shots in to eek out a decision.
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Mosley. Puts IL down and takes the decision. Too big and fast.
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Old 10-01-2012, 07:24 PM   #13
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And in terms of defense, Laguna has the edge......Never was stopped in 75 fights facing great opposition and an offensive force like Ortiz three times....If Ortiz couldnīt, Shane wouldnīt...you can give Shane the edge in the power, but he wasnīt as good offensively as Ortiz, and thatīs the most important here IMO.....
This. Shane lacked too much in the way of his jab, co-ordination/finesse in his wheels and the ability to set up his attack while moving forward against the mobile, trickier types for my liking. Saldivar, Ortiz and Buchanan were all able to impose their superior physicality on Laguna down the stretch, but their abilities in terms of footwork, technical skill, boxing nous and the jab were all clearly above anything I've ever seen Mosley demonstrate in that regard. And even then it wasn't as though they had it easy with Laguna. Shane was physically very powerful (see the Margarito fight) and had obvious power but I can't see him managing to manoevre himself close enough often enough to make it tell on Ismael over the course of the fight; he'd tire himself out trying to do so imo. Laguna had a good jab, a sublime 1-2, an even more sublime inverted 1-2 and he'd also have a slight speed advantage. Mosley would have to work hard to not get discouraged upon encountering real difficulty - something I've never thought he did too well. The only thing I can think of in his defence is that Laguna seemingly got discouraged against Elorde when Elorde was able to put him on the deck in Manila, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was the hostility of the Philippino supporters in the cauldronesque Araneta that got to him as much as anything once Elorde - a great and very complete fighter - was able to gain the upper hand.

I might be coming across as a bit hard on Mosley here, and Laguna wasn't what I'd call a truly complete fighter in that he had flaws of his own that the great technicians and pressure fighters were able to exploit, but Mosley was neither.

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135lbs was where I was most underwhelmed by Mosley funnily enough. I think he came into his own at 147 and is massively overrated at 135lbs, and only managed to fight there due to 24 hour weigh in's.
This too. His handspeed seemed to pick up there, plus the crop he beat at lightweight were so piss poor (by elite standards) that they don't really serve as any kind of indicator in assessing his h2h capabilities at the weight.
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Great to see you posting again Tin !! We need you more around here mate.
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Old 10-02-2012, 05:55 PM   #15
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Great to see you posting again Tin !! We need you more around here mate.
Cheers Victor .The trouble is I have less time these days and my interest waxes and wanes. Said to flea that I'd post a bit more on the brit forum when I could and that hasn't worked either . Not sure that I'm 'needed' as you say, though it's nice to hear someone say it, haha.
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