60s Prime Ali in the 70s - Page 3

SenorRamirez · 04-05-2012, 10:05 AM

vs Frazier = Frazier points
vs Norton = Norton UD
vs Foreman = Ali UD
vs Young = Ali UD
vs Lyle Ali UD
vs Shavers Ali UD
vs Spinks = Ali late TKO
vs Holmes Holmes UD

DonBoxer · 04-05-2012, 11:26 AM

I think people are forgetting that Ali was less durable in the 60s.

I dont see why he should be a prime Frazier and possibly stop him if he couldnt stop a slightly past his best Patterson.

Stevie G · 04-05-2012, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DonBoxer

I think people are forgetting that Ali was less durable in the 60s.

I dont see why he should be a prime Frazier and possibly stop him if he couldnt stop a slightly past his best Patterson.

How has it been proved that Ali was less durable in the sixties ?

It's only that his durability was put on display more in the seventies because the likes of Frazier,Norton and Foreman were tougher than anyone he'd fought in the previous decade.

DonBoxer · 04-05-2012, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Stevie G

How has it been proved that Ali was less durable in the sixties ?

It's only that his durability was put on display more in the seventies because the likes of Frazier,Norton and Foreman were tougher than anyone he'd fought in the previous decade.

He got dropped by Cooper.

Stevie G · 04-05-2012, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DonBoxer

He got dropped by Cooper.

Knockdowns can occur at anytime.

SenorRamirez · 04-05-2012, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Senor Pepe'

In 1975, the heavier Ali punched a bit harder than the 1967 Ali.

natonic · 04-05-2012, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Senor Pepe'

In 1975, the heavier Ali punched a bit harder than the 1967 Ali.

I think this point in itself is debatable, but I would say the '67 Ali was more likely to hit a guy with a shot he didn't see coming and those are the punches which get guys outta there.

ETM · 04-05-2012, 02:44 PM

Frazier and Norton are always going to be tough fights for Ali.

Joe`s ability to cut off the ring and work the body from Round 1 is always going to trouble Muhammad Ali. Close fight, depends on who`s night it is.

Norton just was a bad style matchup for Ali as well. Not sure Ali ever beat him anyway. Ken could take away Ali`s jab. Younger Ali would move more and that may give him an edge in some rounds but Norton just had the tools to go to the wire with him.

Ali probably dances against Foreman and beats him in a different way. Probably stops Shavers.

Holmes is another very close fight. Nobody is dominating a prime Larry Holmes. Not even Ali.

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SenorRamirez Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 298 vCash: 500	Re: 60s Prime Ali in the 70s vs Frazier = Frazier points vs Norton = Norton UD vs Foreman = Ali UD vs Young = Ali UD vs Lyle Ali UD vs Shavers Ali UD vs Spinks = Ali late TKO vs Holmes Holmes UD
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DonBoxer The Lion! ESB Addict Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: In Vitalis cut. Posts: 4,033 vCash: 75	Re: 60s Prime Ali in the 70s I think people are forgetting that Ali was less durable in the 60s. I dont see why he should be a prime Frazier and possibly stop him if he couldnt stop a slightly past his best Patterson.
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ETM Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 1,076 vCash: 500	Re: 60s Prime Ali in the 70s Frazier and Norton are always going to be tough fights for Ali. Joe`s ability to cut off the ring and work the body from Round 1 is always going to trouble Muhammad Ali. Close fight, depends on who`s night it is. Norton just was a bad style matchup for Ali as well. Not sure Ali ever beat him anyway. Ken could take away Ali`s jab. Younger Ali would move more and that may give him an edge in some rounds but Norton just had the tools to go to the wire with him. Ali probably dances against Foreman and beats him in a different way. Probably stops Shavers. Holmes is another very close fight. Nobody is dominating a prime Larry Holmes. Not even Ali.
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