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Old 04-16-2012, 03:00 AM   #1
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Default boxing more often=not being able to lift as much as before???

just an interesting thing i noticed with my friend,

i just started to boxing more reguarly, after being off from boxing and grappling because of a shoulder injury.

the interesting thing is that
now that i am back into boxing
i find that the weights i pushed with ease a few mouths ago
are preety hard to push lol.

just wondering does boxing actually more weaker in some ways
or just other less important reason?


also what i find interesting
when you box
how much muscle are you buring
and how much fat?

the reason i ask is that
while when i box, i feel wonderful and sharp etc

i also find that my body gets softer and less musclar
aka a little more sloopy looking


i have been boxing off and on for like 12 years years
and grappled for 4 years etc.


so i am not new to the game, just have some odd things happening

so it would interesting too see what you guys think
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Old 04-16-2012, 03:39 AM   #2
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Default Re: boxing more often=not being able to lift as much as before???

Generally I get more fit. Slightly bigger muscles, more defined, less fat around my torso, etc. You can gain muscle much easier on a strict weight-lifting routine, but you can certainly gain strength through boxing-oriented exercises. They just have to be functional, not aesthetic.
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Old 04-16-2012, 11:14 AM   #3
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i agree with your statement

but do you mean boxing oriented exercises
as in weight lifting exercises that are good for boxing

or do you boxing excersies are strength related
like medicine ball work etc
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Old 04-17-2012, 08:07 AM   #4
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i agree with your statement

but do you mean boxing oriented exercises
as in weight lifting exercises that are good for boxing

or do you boxing excersies are strength related
like medicine ball work etc
I would say both; you need endurance and conditioning for different muscle groups, but physical strength is also important. I simply mean in the context of "boxing-oriented" because the right use of weights can help a lot, and other forms can diminish your flexibility and speed and explosiveness. Your program would depend on what you're going for. My first coach was educated in nutrition and fitness so I stuck to what he outlined for me, but there's a bunch of information out there on what's beneficial to use. Does your gym focus on your strength and conditioning?

If you're going to box seriously, it's often impossible to dedicate yourself to lifting weights the same way. The energy needed would be so high and the practice itself would likely be counter-productive.
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Old 04-17-2012, 12:42 PM   #5
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being mixed between sports, boxing ,,weight lifting,,grappling etc ,,means your body weight will be all over the place ,,boxing needs less strength than the other two ,,it's more technique,speed, & power from the use of your body,,,the muscles will gain strength from stamina over time & use the body fat first giving the muscles more definition,,,don't think boxing will help lose weight if you have a poor diet ,,fatty foods will add to the fat you already have ,,,if you eat the right foods for the sport your doing then your body will know how to put it to use
you will need more body fat for weight lifting & grappling
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Old 04-17-2012, 02:15 PM   #6
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I would say both; you need endurance and conditioning for different muscle groups, but physical strength is also important. I simply mean in the context of "boxing-oriented" because the right use of weights can help a lot, and other forms can diminish your flexibility and speed and explosiveness. Your program would depend on what you're going for. My first coach was educated in nutrition and fitness so I stuck to what he outlined for me, but there's a bunch of information out there on what's beneficial to use. Does your gym focus on your strength and conditioning?

If you're going to box seriously, it's often impossible to dedicate yourself to lifting weights the same way. The energy needed would be so high and the practice itself would likely be counter-productive.
i agree with you 100 percent but i do think that certain excersies that
might make more stiff are good for injury prevention
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being mixed between sports, boxing ,,weight lifting,,grappling etc ,,means your body weight will be all over the place ,,boxing needs less strength than the other two ,,it's more technique,speed, & power from the use of your body,,,the muscles will gain strength from stamina over time & use the body fat first giving the muscles more definition,,,don't think boxing will help lose weight if you have a poor diet ,,fatty foods will add to the fat you already have ,,,if you eat the right foods for the sport your doing then your body will know how to put it to use
you will need more body fat for weight lifting & grappling
yes and no
the body might be a little all over the place
yes

but if you think grappling is less technical then boxing
you clearly never grappled
if anything it probably has more technique because of the many various
positions and submissions etc/
and yes speed is very important in grappling too
but not as much as in boxing

and yes eating fatty foods is not good for any sport really
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Old 04-17-2012, 02:27 PM   #8
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and bogotazo

what excersies do you think are good for a boxer
and which ones do you can make you stiff etc
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Fatty foods aren't good for any sport? Fat is essential.
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how much rest are you getting in between lifting and boxing?
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well ofcourse fat is essential but i meant foods like cookies etc lol


and i usually do lifting and boxing on different days

or sometimes boxing in mourning and weights at night
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well ofcourse fat is essential but i meant foods like cookies etc lol


and i usually do lifting and boxing on different days

or sometimes boxing in mourning and weights at night
Providing you're avoiding trans fats, things like that aren't going to harm you at all, providing you fit them into your daily intake requirements, although they may not do a great deal for satiety.
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fatty foods will add to the fat you already have ,,,if you eat the right foods for the sport your doing then your body will know how to put it to use
you will need more body fat for weight lifting & grappling
BULLSHIT. Fatty foods do not make you fat more cals then you burn does.

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Providing you're avoiding trans fats, things like that aren't going to harm you at all, providing you fit them into your daily intake requirements, although they may not do a great deal for satiety.
I agree as long as they fit into your cals they won't do harm. For some people who are training hard and burning alot and just don't have appetite they come in handy
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