Floyd Mayweather - How will it end? - Page 5

JukeboxTimebomb · 04-18-2012, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonsey

hes not a natural welter.

What is he then? Because if he's a natural Super Featherweight then Pacquiao is still a Flyweight.

rampant · 04-18-2012, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Flea Man

My point exactly. And often posters who have ADMITTED THEY HAVE LITTLE INTEREST and HAVE DONE LITTLE STUDYING on the old timers.

Flea knows everyhthing bow to the master!

C'mon everyone!

Its still down to opinion regardless of history! people see and view things differently! but your right!

Flea Man · 04-18-2012, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by rampant

Flea knows everyhthing bow to the master!

C'mon everyone!

Its still down to opinion regardless of history! people see and view things differently! but your right!

I'm not right, never said that.

I'm not 'biased'. That's what you said.

Flea Man · 04-18-2012, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JukeboxTimebomb

What is he then? Because if he's a natural Super Featherweight then Pacquiao is still a Flyweight.

Didn't you know? Floyd has never had to cut weight, he's the one fighter who has never exploited the 24 hour weigh-in period, just because he now fights at his natural weight!

BretN · 04-18-2012, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Spearmint Rhino

He'll retire undefeated but as an enigmatic, unfulfilled talent.

What a waste of ability.

Not his fault there has been nobody even close to him in his era though

Flea Man · 04-18-2012, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by dftaylor

As others have said, Ray faced Maxim at 175. He was around 158 on the night, fully clothed and carrying a coal scuttle.

The whole point of fighting Martinez is that Floyd will not hold all the advantages for once. Floyd is not a blown up super feather - he's a natural welter who can easily navigate the step up.

For the record, I think the Cotto fight is a good one, but really it's not a fight where Floydhas any disadvantages. He wants to look good against a near-prime fighter and Cotto is perfect for that.

This. But of course, Floyd fought Ortiz, who weighed 161 on the night

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Originally Posted by JukeboxTimebomb

Cotto and Pacquiao aren't the same fighters they were, its a shame but its true. Martinez hasn't done much as a Middleweight Champion for a win over him to take Floyd beyond the likes of Ezzard Charles. Charles was a Middleweight that beat Burley, Moore, Elmer Ray, Bob Satafield, Jimmy Bivins, an old Joe Louis and Joey Maxim. He couldn't get title shots at Middle or Light Heavyweight so he moved up and became Heavyweight Champion. Floyd is 35, he's going to jail soon and he avoided all the guys he could of proved his greatness against after his scare against Castillo when he was younger, he isn't going to match what Charles did by beating Pacquiao or Martinez, he probably won't even fight them.

If Floyd taking on Sergio Martinez is unreasonable, then its unreasonable to even mention him along side Sam Langford who has wins over ATG Lightweight champion Joe Gans at Lightweight when he was still a teenager and later on scored KO victories over Hall Of Fame Heavyweights Sam McVea, Joe Jannette and Harry Wills. Micky Walker was Welterweight Champion and drew with Heavyweight Champion Jack Sharkey, think Sharkey was shit well watch this and shut the fuck up about Mayweather being as great as Micky Walker.

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Fantastic post. You are biased though.

pathmanc1986 · 04-18-2012, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by rampant

Flea knows everyhthing bow to the master!

C'mon everyone!

Its still down to opinion regardless of history! people see and view things differently! but your right!

now heres an intellectual heavyweight

Scottishbox10 · 04-18-2012, 08:38 AM

Floyd Mayweather Jr. (42-0, 26KOs) is looking to fight five more times before retiring from the sport. Mayweather, 35-years-old, returns on May 5th at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. He faces WBA junior middleweight champion Miguel Cotto (37-2, 30KOs). Mayweather wants to have at least two fights per year, which puts him on the path to retirement at age 37. On June 1, Mayweather will report to the Clark County Detention Center in Las Vegas to spend 87 days in jail for a domestic abuse charge. He wants to take another fight in the fall.

"Safe to say, probably -- this one [with Cotto], plus five more. And of course, I'm probably not looking to fight six strong champions," Mayweather told David Mayo of the Grand Rapids Press. "I'm a lot older now, you know what I'm saying?"
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Flea Man · 04-18-2012, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BretN

Not his fault there has been nobody even close to him in his era though

Which is why everyone says the same thing: no one is saying it's Floyd fault. HE HAS DONE NOTHING WRONG.

There are just many other fighters who did A LOT MORE RIGHT.

So are you saying Floyd should be higher ranked because we feel sorry for him because his era wasn't great? Anyway, there were better challenges out there that he did take on.

He isn't as brilliantly talented as other think IMO, got nuttin' on Sumbu Kalambay for one (except for pure handspeed)

rampant · 04-18-2012, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by pathmanc1986

now heres an intellectual heavyweight

Frank Bruno is my number 1 ATG!

JukeboxTimebomb · 04-18-2012, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Flea Man

Fantastic post. You are biased though.

Biased about Jack Sharkey I admit it

. Still don't think he is a top 10 Heavyweight even I just think he is absurdly fun to watch and under appreciated.

I can see why people go over board with Floyd, its the same shit but its not like Floyd is the only guy to do it. I was a big Mayweather fan at one point but he just stopped taking the best on after the Castillo scare, that plus being an total cunt put me off. I think he took to much flak for fighting Baldomir and Hatton though, they are good wins. Its the people he didn't fight at the right time that is so bad for his case. How can somebody get so many people to believe he is the best ever when he went on "vacation" and said "I'll retire from boxing, I won't let boxing retire me" when asked about defending his title like a champion against a prime Cotto? If he was so much better than Cotto then why not prove it and make millions. Bold claims require bold actions.

dftaylor · 04-18-2012, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonsey

hes not a natural welter.

If you don't need to cut weight, and you're not significantly smaller than your opponents, then you're a natural at that weight.

BretN · 04-18-2012, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Flea Man

Which is why everyone says the same thing: no one is saying it's Floyd fault. HE HAS DONE NOTHING WRONG.

There are just many other fighters who did A LOT MORE RIGHT.

So are you saying Floyd should be higher ranked because we feel sorry for him because his era wasn't great? Anyway, there were better challenges out there that he did take on.

He isn't as brilliantly talented as other think IMO, got nuttin' on Sumbu Kalambay for one (except for pure handspeed)

No i just find it highly amusing everyone now retorts to this "he hasn't fought anybody, waste of talent" stuff now when three years ago it was the same people claiming "he's ducking Mosley"...There is always something to put Mayweather down.

rampant · 04-18-2012, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Flea Man

I'm not right, never said that.

I'm not 'biased'. That's what you said.

Once again your right!

Flea Man · 04-18-2012, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dftaylor

If you don't need to cut weight, and you're not significantly smaller than your opponents, then you're a natural at that weight.

Not a natural welter by today's (super middle/light heavy) standards

View Poll Results: How will it end?
50-0 Unbeaten. Beats Paq/Martinez at 154+	34	34.69%
43-0 Unbeaten - no big challenges recently	33	33.67%
Loses once to an underdog. Retires 44-1ish	13	13.27%
Loses to Cotto - Jail - Retires	1	1.02%
Finally takes on a challenge and loses (Paq/Martinez)	17	17.35%
Voters: 98. You may not vote on this poll

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Scottishbox10 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,332 vCash: 500	Re: Floyd Mayweather - How will it end? Floyd Mayweather Jr. (42-0, 26KOs) is looking to fight five more times before retiring from the sport. Mayweather, 35-years-old, returns on May 5th at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. He faces WBA junior middleweight champion Miguel Cotto (37-2, 30KOs). Mayweather wants to have at least two fights per year, which puts him on the path to retirement at age 37. On June 1, Mayweather will report to the Clark County Detention Center in Las Vegas to spend 87 days in jail for a domestic abuse charge. He wants to take another fight in the fall. "Safe to say, probably -- this one [with Cotto], plus five more. And of course, I'm probably not looking to fight six strong champions," Mayweather told David Mayo of the Grand Rapids Press. "I'm a lot older now, you know what I'm saying?" [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
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