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Old 04-21-2012, 07:53 PM   #16
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Come back Billy Graham!
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Old 04-21-2012, 07:54 PM   #17
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[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0JqGSUabdc&feature=related[/ame]


Ricky Hatton's 9th fight.... alright the opponent is pretty ****, but Ricky is a novice. Good head movement, nice light feet and variety to the punches.

Must say I prefer the lower guard rather than the earmuff type defence, or failing that the Azumah Nelson type defence with the hands quite wide apart.
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Old 04-21-2012, 07:55 PM   #18
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Where is Billy Graham...? he built the most exciting and biggest fighter in Ricky Hatton since Brendan Ingle and Prince Naseem Hamed.
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Old 04-21-2012, 07:55 PM   #19
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I like him..

I like his violent style of training.

I am a big fan of violence inside of the ring.
Well, PK has spoken.

Gallagher is good for the sport
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Old 04-21-2012, 07:56 PM   #20
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True BB, but Hatton was a top amateur.
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Old 04-21-2012, 07:57 PM   #21
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Squared up on shoulders and coming in straight lines
Thats the thing Mand, he squares up and looks for all the world like an old school slugger and as his earlier fights showed he's way better than that. In response to the TSs question, yes , it would appear so.
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Old 04-21-2012, 07:59 PM   #22
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gallaghers fighters dont seem to move their heads, at all. even cursory side to side head movement and move pivoting off his front foot and crolla would have stopped mathews imo
Its difficult to develop head movement when you've got gloves for ear warmers. The style is awful which in Crollas case is a shame because the lad really does have skills.
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Yes, he does seem to be lacking in the defense department.
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Old 04-21-2012, 08:01 PM   #24
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I am a big fan of violence inside of the ring.
I'm quoting you because you neglected to do it yourself
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Old 04-21-2012, 08:01 PM   #25
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The issue for Crolla was that his defence has no nuance - he just covers up and, like almost all Gallagher fighters in that mould, they are suckers for the uppercut.

Crolla needs two basic wrinkles added to his game:

1) move his head
2) step to the side when an opponent opens up and right after you punch.

Rather than working on body punching, those two things should be the big focus. The guy knows how to punch, he's got that **** down. He needs to know how to make himself a hard target and then transition to offence out of it.

Standing waiting for your opponent to blast themselves out isn't a long-term strategy. The trick is to find the gaps in their timing - Matthews kept throwing the right uppercut whenever Crolla threw a straight left - it was obvious and it was working. Stepping to the right takes that shot away and gives perfect leverage for a left hook to the body, THEN the right cross.

Basic fundamentals that Gallagher doesn't seem to instil. It's fine in training because everyone in that gym does the same thing.
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Old 04-21-2012, 08:02 PM   #26
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This might just be me that thinks this but I feel Gallagher might be a bit too arrogant in his teaching methods, like he knows best and refuses to accept other ways of doing things and other tactics? I don't know but it would explain a few things imo?
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Old 04-21-2012, 08:03 PM   #27
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Nice vid BB, just looked it up and Hatton's opponent Carter is still boxing!

When Crolla first joined Gallagher it looked like a good move, he put in some really good performances against the likes of Andy Morris. He works best behind his jab keeping things simple.

Dunno here but maybe the sparring they do in that gym gets pretty heated and it carries over into the fighters ring performances

Joe Murray also looks like he could be a classy boxer so I wonder how he'll develop under Gallagher
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Old 04-21-2012, 08:03 PM   #28
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I haven't seen Joe Murray box in a while, but I remember him as a loose and fluid boxer that used plenty of upper-body movement. Has his style changed much towards what we come to expect from a Gallagher fighter?
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This might just be me that thinks this but I feel Gallagher might be a bit too arrogant in his teaching methods, like he knows best and refuses to accept other ways of doing things and other tactics? I don't know but it would explain a few things imo?
He does seem very arrogant.
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Old 04-21-2012, 08:09 PM   #30
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Nice vid BB, just looked it up and Hatton's opponent Carter is still boxing!

When Crolla first joined Gallagher it looked like a good move, he put in some really good performances against the likes of Andy Morris. He works best behind his jab keeping things simple.

Dunno here but maybe the sparring they do in that gym gets pretty heated and it carries over into the fighters ring performances

Joe Murray also looks like he could be a classy boxer so I wonder how he'll develop under Gallagher
Gallagher added some inside technique to his game, which meant he was able to box and slug when needed. Unfortunately all Gallagher's fighters seem to ignore the boxing part and just try to out-work their opponents.

When Crolla got on the jab in the first two rounds he looked great. When he started piling in, he got clipped.

I think of when Murray hammered Thaxton - he was doing some nice little moves. Those side-steps when he was punching created fantastic angles to hit. Those tactics would have carried him through against Mitchell, IMO.

But between that and the Mitchell fight he'd just become a come-forward plodder without the punch.
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