Imagine Judah beats Marquez then goes on to flatten pac - Page 4

HoldMyBeer · 05-05-2012, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MrMagic

Who cares?

The very best have that mental makeup of championship calibre, Judah clearly has not. So many intangibles that makes for a great fighter, its not all about physical talent.

thats why i said could have.
but judah's raw talent is off the charts - rest of it is still graduating grade school

saul_ir34 · 05-05-2012, 10:41 AM

Awesome fight. Judah did turn the clock back against Paris but JMM is on another level.

Judah is not awkward or hard to find. He has skills but JMM skills are better. Also Judah has a soft chin so I think JMM actually ends up stopping him. I would not be surprised to see JMM get dropped early on though. Once he adjust he will start picking Judah apart and then stops him in the late rounds.

Judah would be a hell of a warm up for Pac being that they are both speedy southpaws.

kylmac85 · 05-05-2012, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MrMagic

Why is Judah always getting the hype?

He's a thug quitter, and quitters never win, because winners never quit.

This happens every damn time he beats some c-level fighter. Then he steps up in class and gets dominated or stopped. This thread is gonna be real funny post fight. Unless JMM gets old overnight.

saul_ir34 · 05-05-2012, 10:49 AM

Only on ESB are you as good as your last fight.

Lara now is being put on a pedestal after beating the highly regarded Hearns Jr.
Judah is the same after beating the highly regarded Paris.

Come on dude. You guys forget Lara was worked by Molina and Judah QUIT against Khan when the going got tough?

Judah would start folding when his shots are getting countered by a 6 punch combination repeatedly. JMM is no soft puncher either. Combine that with Judahs inability to take a shot and you got trouble.

SUGAR J · 05-05-2012, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by saul_ir34

Only on ESB are you as good as your last fight.

Lara now is being put on a pedestal after beating the highly regarded Hearns Jr.
Judah is the same after beating the highly regarded Paris.

Come on dude. You guys forget Lara was worked by Molina and Judah QUIT against Khan when the going got tough?

Judah would start folding when his shots are getting countered by a 6 punch combination repeatedly. JMM is no soft puncher either. Combine that with Judahs inability to take a shot and you got trouble.

This

kylmac85 · 05-05-2012, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by saul_ir34

Only on ESB are you as good as your last fight.

Lara now is being put on a pedestal after beating the highly regarded Hearns Jr.
Judah is the same after beating the highly regarded Paris.

Come on dude. You guys forget Lara was worked by Molina and Judah QUIT against Khan when the going got tough?

Judah would start folding when his shots are getting countered by a 6 punch combination repeatedly. JMM is no soft puncher either. Combine that with Judahs inability to take a shot and you got trouble.

he certainly got pac's attention with his punches. Not to mention Zab isn't exactly iron chinned himself. Zab also has stamina issues and a tough time keeping his shit together and staying focused for 12 rounds. So now we are supposed to believe he's either A) going to knockout a marquez that has never been stopped and has been in with hard punchers before or B) get outboxed over twelve rounds. The same marquez who is one of the best technicians in the sport and still has amazing stamina and focus at 38. This is all based off Judah stopping an untested fighter with a glass jaw.

DontBlink · 05-05-2012, 11:08 AM

War Judah god speed countering match up with Judah knowing he can hurt him.

Judah got to let his hands go Vernon took leather up till the end. If maq goes down Judah will finsh

MrMagic · 05-05-2012, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SUGAR J

Absolutely spot on, when hes winning he loves the game, when he's under pressure he feigns injury or just fucking quits.

He's got fuck all chance of beating a good fighter now, he's shot.

Absolutely, when he gets smashed to smithereens and quits in fights against Khan when he's on the end of a stiff jab, its drama and shit in his life. Then he takes on some bum and all of a sudden he's a born again christian with morals in his life.

Sick and tired of the Judah storyline, the guy is a thug, a quitter and a disgrace to boxing.

Hes brooklyns finest

bitch.

MrMagic · 05-05-2012, 11:16 AM

Consistently inconsistent.

Hatesrats · 05-05-2012, 11:17 AM

Judah is "live" Vs. anyone....
A fighter w/Zab's hand speed & power always makes him dangerous & against JMM that is exactly the tools needed to simply overwhelm him early.
(Only thing tho is the opponent must also be able to take Juan's counters)

Not sure Judah can take the counter attack... Even from the smaller Marquez.
As for a fight w/ Pacquiao, papa Arum say's....

JIM KELLY · 05-05-2012, 11:20 AM

judah v marquez is a nice match up!

05-05-2012, 10:41 AM	#47
saul_ir34 Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 11,206 vCash: 675	Re: Imagine Judah beats Marquez then goes on to flatten pac Awesome fight. Judah did turn the clock back against Paris but JMM is on another level. Judah is not awkward or hard to find. He has skills but JMM skills are better. Also Judah has a soft chin so I think JMM actually ends up stopping him. I would not be surprised to see JMM get dropped early on though. Once he adjust he will start picking Judah apart and then stops him in the late rounds. Judah would be a hell of a warm up for Pac being that they are both speedy southpaws.
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05-05-2012, 10:49 AM	#49
saul_ir34 Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 11,206 vCash: 675	Re: Imagine Judah beats Marquez then goes on to flatten pac Only on ESB are you as good as your last fight. Lara now is being put on a pedestal after beating the highly regarded Hearns Jr. Judah is the same after beating the highly regarded Paris. Come on dude. You guys forget Lara was worked by Molina and Judah QUIT against Khan when the going got tough? Judah would start folding when his shots are getting countered by a 6 punch combination repeatedly. JMM is no soft puncher either. Combine that with Judahs inability to take a shot and you got trouble.
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05-05-2012, 11:08 AM	#52
DontBlink Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 633 vCash: 500	Re: Imagine Judah beats Marquez then goes on to flatten pac War Judah god speed countering match up with Judah knowing he can hurt him. Judah got to let his hands go Vernon took leather up till the end. If maq goes down Judah will finsh
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05-05-2012, 11:16 AM	#54
MrMagic Super Six East Side VIP Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 24,437 vCash: 1000	Re: Imagine Judah beats Marquez then goes on to flatten pac Consistently inconsistent.
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Hatesrats "Al Grito De Guerra" East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oxnard, CA Posts: 25,989 vCash: 0	Re: Imagine Judah beats Marquez then goes on to flatten pac Judah is "live" Vs. anyone.... A fighter w/Zab's hand speed & power always makes him dangerous & against JMM that is exactly the tools needed to simply overwhelm him early. (Only thing tho is the opponent must also be able to take Juan's counters) Not sure Judah can take the counter attack... Even from the smaller Marquez. As for a fight w/ Pacquiao, papa Arum say's....
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05-05-2012, 11:20 AM	#56
JIM KELLY Bullshyt Mr Han Man! East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Han's Island Posts: 18,470 vCash: 1000	Re: Imagine Judah beats Marquez then goes on to flatten pac judah v marquez is a nice match up!
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