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Old 05-06-2012, 12:01 PM   #31
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I think Cooney against Norton is the worst one I've ever seen.

Norton is basically sat as he would be during the minute interval, only unconcious.... and Cooney keeps teeing off on him, whilst the ref just does nothing until about ten punches land.

I moan about British refs as much as anyone, but at least we'll never see that over here.
Ike Williams V's Beau Jack and Ingemar Johansson V's Eddie Machen are as bad, worse even. No idea how Eddie didn't just die in the ring it's so brutal.
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Old 05-06-2012, 12:02 PM   #32
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Default Re: Stoppage in the Corley - McCloskey fight..

Can't make my mind up about the stoppage, I do think IJL pannicked though, which is weird because he didn't seem to worry when Vitali Klitschko was giving Shannon Briggs a huge beating
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Old 05-06-2012, 03:30 PM   #33
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Another shite British stoppage. Ian John Lewis is ****ing awful and premature stoppages like this are ruining British boxing
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Old 05-06-2012, 03:33 PM   #34
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Default Re: Stoppage in the Corley - McCloskey fight..

How anyone can say thats a good stoppage I just do not know.

Theres one thing seeing a shitty stoppage in a fight where a journeyman has no chance of winning...

Theres quite another stopping a guy in an important fight like this where he's clearly edging back into it, if not ahead, and had already been hurt previously and recovered. The guy was on his feet, and solid. Should have let it go and see what happened if Corley followed it up, now we have the 'what if' questions. Even Corley thought it was shite.

Our refs are embarrassing the sport.
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Old 05-06-2012, 05:18 PM   #35
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McCloskey is such a bum.
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Old 05-06-2012, 05:26 PM   #36
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Reminder that Jim Watt literally raged and cried robbery when a fight he gave to Martin Murray by one(1) round was declared a draw.
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Old 05-06-2012, 05:34 PM   #37
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I missed bits of the fight because made the mistake of watching it in the pub.To be honest I thought McCloskey was on a loser and was ready to be stopped pretty early on.I had no comentry to listen to and thought it looked fair enough.McCloskey looked out of sorts and unlike in the Prescot fight he was not getting into it at all as it went on.He will be gutted but can come back from it.
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Old 05-06-2012, 05:53 PM   #38
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It looks like a bad stoppage but I think it was a good stoppage. You could have let it go on another 15 seconds to see if McCloskey had enough wits about him to move, hold, fight back etc However he was ****ed to his core. The punch zombified him and he became an extra in the walking dead. Even when the ref did step in and he tried to protest he was on unsteady legs. I didn't see anything to suggest that a Corley follow up could have been avoided.

So it does look like a quick stoppage but when you look at his eyes and his body, I think he wasn't fit to continue and thus saved from being hurt.
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Old 05-06-2012, 05:54 PM   #39
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To be fair he was a mess after that shot landed, could see it in his eyes.
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Old 05-06-2012, 05:58 PM   #40
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How anyone can say thats a good stoppage I just do not know.

Theres one thing seeing a shitty stoppage in a fight where a journeyman has no chance of winning...

Theres quite another stopping a guy in an important fight like this where he's clearly edging back into it, if not ahead, and had already been hurt previously and recovered. The guy was on his feet, and solid. Should have let it go and see what happened if Corley followed it up, now we have the 'what if' questions. Even Corley thought it was shite.

Our refs are embarrassing the sport.
He was allover the shop for **** sake, a stiff fart would have floored him after corley caught him with that shot,just a shame he wasn't actually starched properly, dislike the little cunt immensely. And ofcourse Corley thought it was shit, he wanted to knock him the **** out. And he would have if the ref had let it continue.
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Old 05-06-2012, 06:03 PM   #41
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I don't understand it whenever someone says "he would have been stopped in ___ seconds anyway". Stop a fight when it deserves to be stopped, not because you think it will deserve to be stopped in a few seconds. A fighter deserves the chance to defend himself and if he gets hit unanswered a couple of times, so be it, stop it then. We're far too overprotective. I'm not saying it would have, but McCloskey could have held on, escaped the round and then gone on to win the fight. We simply don't know but the fighter deserves the chance to show what he has left.

A referees job isn't just to protect the fighter. That's not their sole job. They're also there to ensure it's a fair fight and also to make sure the fans get entertained. The referee is certainly protecting the boxer but I don't think the other two are even being considered when you have an early stoppage.

Our bad stoppages are infamous around the world. They're an embarrassment. How many truly great fights would have been allowed to happen with one of our pathetic refs? Castillo/Corrales? No. Gatti/Ward? No. Zale/Graziano? No. Bowe/Holyfield? No. You can go on and on with this but the point is simple: Our referees are overprotective and not only is it unfair to the fans, the fighters are also being punished by bad officiating.
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Old 05-06-2012, 06:32 PM   #42
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McCloskey tweeted earlier he lost and had no excuses.

Appears he doesn't see it as that bad a stoppage.
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Old 05-06-2012, 06:44 PM   #43
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Michael Watson's shadow will always cast itself over Brit referees.

The fear of letting someone get serious injury must go through their minds every fight. They don't want to be the ref who 'let that guy get killed/injured'.

We criticise IJL for stopping this fight, but have a go when he let Vitali-Briggs continue.

In honesty, is there a perfect ref TKO stoppage? It is split second judgement.
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Old 05-06-2012, 07:09 PM   #44
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For a Brit stoppage, it was ok.

And I stress the words "For a Brit stoppage".
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Old 05-06-2012, 07:30 PM   #45
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His face looked like a used sanitary towel and he was on shaky legs, that punch nearly took his head off and he clearly didn't want it despite having a whinge ( Made no fuss atall when sat in his corner ). Ref made the right choice stopping it IMO, no point in letting the poor lad get sparked infront of his fans/risk further injury.
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