Haye is going to RUN THROUGH Chisora! - Page 6

dftaylor · 05-08-2012, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by R.I.P Sky

How many rounds did you give him?

Two, if I recall correctly.

R.I.P Sky · 05-08-2012, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dftaylor

Two, if I recall correctly.

I dont disagree with that at all (I only gave him three) but IMO he was still competitive despite Vitali winning quite comfortably. I scored Cotto/Floyd 117-111 for Floyd for instance yet that fight was very competitive.
I mean how many rounds did guys like Adamek, Arreola, Briggs win against the same man? Combined I gave them 1 round

dftaylor · 05-08-2012, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by R.I.P Sky

I dont disagree with that at all (I only gave him three) but IMO he was still competitive despite Vitali winning quite comfortably. I scored Cotto/Floyd 117-111 for Floyd for instance yet that fight was very competitive.
I mean how many rounds did guys like Adamek, Arreola, Briggs win against the same man? Combined I gave them 1 round

BUT doing better does not mean doing well. Just because he made more of an effort doesn't mean he gets extra credit when he's still losing comprehensively.

And it tells us nothing about how he'll fare against Haye.

Comparing that fight with Cotto's effort is a little thin.

Nick Hewer · 05-08-2012, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Manning

Sanders?

Good shout actually.

MattMattMatt · 05-08-2012, 03:58 PM

I can't pick this one. Haye's perfomance against Wlad may very well be deceptive, a lot of people will be judging him on that rather than how he was viewed prior to that fight. I don't think fighting Wlad should suggest much about how it is to fight Chisora, especially when there was so little action.

Chisora's recent efforts have not been that dissimilar from Fragomeni in style. Recall how Haye actually struggled with a durable fighter that will come forward to get on the inside with little worry about what is coming back at him. The difference is that Fragomeni was 5'9" and <200lbs and Chisora is 6'1" and ~240lbs, and almost certainly with better punch resistance. I don't expect Chisora to take a backward step unless he is hurt. Haye will be back pedalling and trying to land big counters all night, and with Haye's debatable stamina, that's going to be a pretty decent challenge.

TFFP · 05-08-2012, 04:06 PM

I'm really not sure why peoples perceptions have changed to the degree its widely considered Chisora has a great chance. Because he beat an oak tree like Helenius and nicked a few rounds off an ancient and visibly fading Klitschko? What do you think would happen if Haye fought somebody as bad as Helenius? Its widely known he got pounded by Haye in sparring, he'd get knocked out in a real fight. It's not at all hard to envisage Haye taking rounds off a slow, clumsy Vitali at this point.

Haye will win this fight.

Your Out! · 05-08-2012, 04:08 PM

Haye 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000% KO Chisora within 3 rounds

Manning · 05-08-2012, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TFFP

I'm really not sure why peoples perceptions have changed to the degree its widely considered Chisora has a great chance. Because he beat an oak tree like Helenius and nicked a few rounds off an ancient and visibly fading Klitschko? What do you think would happen if Haye fought somebody as bad as Helenius? Its widely known he got pounded by Haye in sparring, he'd get knocked out in a real fight. It's not at all hard to envisage Haye taking rounds off a slow, clumsy Vitali at this point.

Haye will win this fight.

I'm not sure they actually did spar in the end. Only after the fight did Haye say he called off all sparring due to the broken toe with at least a week of sparring still scheduled.

Foreman Hook · 05-08-2012, 06:39 PM

Run Through? You mean FROM.

Foreman Hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooook!

sconnew · 05-08-2012, 07:04 PM

Does anyone else find the venue of the fight a bit interesting? As a West Ham season ticket holder and a fairly casual boxing fan, the thought of the Millwall supporting Haye fighting at Upton Park, could lead to absolute chaos, there could be more action out side the ring than in.

Also surprised Haye has possibly hand the home advantage to Chisora when there were so many other possible neutral venues.

dftaylor · 05-08-2012, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sconnew

Does anyone else find the venue of the fight a bit interesting? As a West Ham season ticket holder and a fairly casual boxing fan, the thought of the Millwall supporting Haye fighting at Upton Park, could lead to absolute chaos, there could be more action out side the ring than in.

Also surprised Haye has possibly hand the home advantage to Chisora when there were so many other possible neutral venues.

Frank has a deal with the owners, I expect.

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MattMattMatt Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,714 vCash: 75	Re: Haye is going to RUN THROUGH Chisora! I can't pick this one. Haye's perfomance against Wlad may very well be deceptive, a lot of people will be judging him on that rather than how he was viewed prior to that fight. I don't think fighting Wlad should suggest much about how it is to fight Chisora, especially when there was so little action. Chisora's recent efforts have not been that dissimilar from Fragomeni in style. Recall how Haye actually struggled with a durable fighter that will come forward to get on the inside with little worry about what is coming back at him. The difference is that Fragomeni was 5'9" and <200lbs and Chisora is 6'1" and ~240lbs, and almost certainly with better punch resistance. I don't expect Chisora to take a backward step unless he is hurt. Haye will be back pedalling and trying to land big counters all night, and with Haye's debatable stamina, that's going to be a pretty decent challenge.
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TFFP The Eskimo East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Reykjavík Posts: 22,556 vCash: 2500	Re: Haye is going to RUN THROUGH Chisora! I'm really not sure why peoples perceptions have changed to the degree its widely considered Chisora has a great chance. Because he beat an oak tree like Helenius and nicked a few rounds off an ancient and visibly fading Klitschko? What do you think would happen if Haye fought somebody as bad as Helenius? Its widely known he got pounded by Haye in sparring, he'd get knocked out in a real fight. It's not at all hard to envisage Haye taking rounds off a slow, clumsy Vitali at this point. Haye will win this fight.
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sconnew newbie Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 3 vCash: 500	Re: Haye is going to RUN THROUGH Chisora! Does anyone else find the venue of the fight a bit interesting? As a West Ham season ticket holder and a fairly casual boxing fan, the thought of the Millwall supporting Haye fighting at Upton Park, could lead to absolute chaos, there could be more action out side the ring than in. Also surprised Haye has possibly hand the home advantage to Chisora when there were so many other possible neutral venues.
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